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If you can eat it, isn't it game animal?
No, when I look at your avatar I see a tard in a ten gallon hat screaming "BENGHAZI!!!! FREEDOM!!! KILL!!!"
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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If you can eat it, isn't it game animal?
Lol
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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F,
I shot some starlings today that were raiding a wood duck nest.
Any recipe suggestions? Lol.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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A little standoff in central Nevada. I drove up and parked & while I was getting ready for a hike to an old mine, the bull slowly walked down a hill to me. He stopped about 30 feet away in a non-threatening position. I don't know if he wanted oats, or his chin scratched, or if I just needed to be checked-out. He slowly walked away after I said "f*#k the Bundy's."
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BENGHAZI!!!! FREEDOM!!! KILL!!!" LOL!!!
Just keep shouting the party line, you are doing just fine, sugar tits.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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I don't know if he wanted oats, or ......,
Maybe he remembered you from last time and thought you might, errr...oblige him again.....
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Just keep shouting the party line, you are doing just fine, sugar tits.
So, no recipe suggestions then?
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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"sugar tits"... that could have been a suggestion for a recipe.
References to Libya too. Maybe it's a North African dish?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Good Point. I like Afghan cuisine, maybe he's onto something.
One of my favs in NorKal
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Escopeta! Re your comment about my Bundy bull encounter:
Maybe he remembered you from last time and thought you might, errr...oblige him again.....
Sorry, but I don't share your strong attraction to bulls or cows.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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These guys, who actually own less than a section of land (640 acres, or a square mile), also need 80,000 acres of desert just to raise a few hundred skinny cows. Bundy hadn't even branded a bunch of his calves. Unbranded cows are called "slicks."
At the same time, you can raise and feed hundreds of cattle on only a thousand acres on wetter land to the east. These Nevada cattlemen really only ranch as a hobby. Bundy certainly couldn't support himself on that small of a herd, even with that gazillion acres of BLM grazing rights he had been using. Crappy land like that just isn't made for cows.
It is like growing corn west of the hundredth meridian. It is way too dry to grow without irrigation and is heavily subsidized to boot. Farmers and ranchers suck on the government tit like you guys wouldn't believe, from federal grazing rights to CRP. CRP land is land that the government pays you NOT to farm, lest ye ruin thine topsoil. It is one of those government handouts that the farmers now need just to keep afloat. CRP is like the ethanol subsidy, but much more common. I've heard many a farmer brag about how much they have received in CRP payments.
That guy Finnicum, who committed suicide by cop, apparently made most of his money from foster children. These guys aren't real ranchers. Not in any economic reality. No matter that they wear cowboy hats. Ranchers to the east can raise a lot of cattle on a fraction of the land. That desert scrub is that poor.
Bundy's cows have wandered all the way down to Lake Meade, and he apparently doesn't even do a spring roundup. They just wander the desert.
Somebody needs to do a government service by going out there and shooting all of his nuisance cattle.
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Somebody needs to do a government service by going out there and shooting all of his nuisance cattle
Ordinarily Escopedro would be your "huckleberry" for that. He gots off on en masse killing of "nuisance" animals. Except in this case, they belong to his "FREEDOM!" loving butt-buddy Bundy, so I don't think he'll oblige you on this one. I think he's busy today anyway, looking for some cute little baby rabbits to stomp on with his cowboy boots.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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I'm serious about the notion that these guys are cattle ranchers. Finnicum apparently made his money from raising foster children, and Bundy never gave his herd much attention from all accounts that I have read.
It all comes down to why in hell would we be subsidizing cattle destroying the range land, when real ranchers in moister areas are grazing their cattle on winter wheat or alfalfa. You couldn't get an alfalfa plant to grow out in that part of Nevada without a lot of irrigation.
So I classify these guys as sort of wannabe cattle ranchers. I grew up hunting and fishing on a huge ranch where I grew up. I had permission to hunt and fish to my heart's content. This was a real ranch, with thousands of cattle on a fraction of the amount of land that those desert ranchers need to get by. It is just a lousy area to ranch.
So spare me the romantic vision of these guys as western hero cattle ranchers. In Nevada, they had to close 145,000 acres to round up his little herd which had wandered all the way to Lake Meade. Bundy even claims that the land is his. I tired of his version of the Bill of Rights pretty quickly. He is so far off of his nut that he isn't a very sympathetic figure.
145,000 acres for a few hundred cows is what we are talking about. That land is so poor that a rancher in a wetter area would need a small fraction of that amount of land to raise his herd.
I already mentioned that he was running slicks. That means that he wasn't doing much cattle work. What he had going was a bunch of skinny cattle of little value trampling a massive area. So, knowing real cattle ranchers, I just shake my head at Bundy's claims and actual impacts. He and his buddies are jokes as cattle ranchers.
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Shouldn't we as "FREEDOM!!!" Loving 'Mercians have the right to be wannabe ranchers that suck at what we claim is our occupation though?
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Apr 13, 2016 - 03:21pm PT
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I'm sure Escopedro will be there showing support for the poor rancher that the GUBBMINT! has it out for.
He will be easy to spot. The tard in the ten gallon hat outside the courthouse chanting "FREEDOM!!! BENGHAZI!!!!!!"
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 13, 2016 - 03:36pm PT
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Ammon who?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 13, 2016 - 04:51pm PT
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Yes. Definitely make the Keystone Kowboys face more judges.
Maybe someday they'll get the drift.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 13, 2016 - 07:56pm PT
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Maybe somebody knows.
What branch of the armed forces was Ammo in before he joined the militia?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 13, 2016 - 08:58pm PT
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A number of Keystone Kowboys were ex military, but Ammon was not one of them. I don't know of any of the Bundy's having served.
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