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the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Oct 9, 2011 - 09:25pm PT
The fact that you select isolated instances of bad behavior on the part of tea-party members proves nothing

LOL, you do realize any negative tea party stuff posted was to respond to above posts about how the occupy people are dirty, violent, lazy, etc.

But of course you are right. You can't generalize those on the left, right, or center. But guess who does it WAY more, the right. Look at Bluering's posts, even I (a centrist) am a lazy commie, who wants something for nothing. I guess I should just sink to that level and say ALL righties beat homosexuals to death and drag African Americans behind trucks to their death. But no, I realize all people are different and there is a whole spectrum of people on the left and the right, some are great and some are horrible.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Oct 9, 2011 - 09:30pm PT
Proof that George Soros is behind these protests?

Any kind of a credible source link will do.

Just would like to know where you got this information, thank you.


Like to add that ACORN is somehow behind this also?

Maybe Bill Ayers?

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 9, 2011 - 09:38pm PT
Doesn't matter what else you say, just make sure you include those dog whistle talking points... they make me salivate.


You don't like those, Wes. Which one really pisses you off?
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 9, 2011 - 09:43pm PT
TGT (and others), do you really imagine that there is a demonstration of any variety that doesn't leave a mess?

It's a fact that the "Tea Party " gatherings have left the locations cleaner than they found them, with the only LEO interactions coming from counter demonstrators.


Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 9, 2011 - 09:47pm PT
If it's a fact, please cite one or more independent sources to prove it. I'm rather skeptical of claims that any group is cleaner or tidier than others.

I suspect that municipal police, emergency services, and garbage collection departments find all demonstrations a chore, with little to distinguish between them in terms of messes. One reason why they like such things to be planned, so there's at least some level of extra services available. The same amount/person of garbage and poop is produced, but providing ahead of time for it makes it a bit easier to clean up.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 9, 2011 - 09:48pm PT
They all piss me off. I won't be happy until we are all gay muslim hippies being force fed organic kale grown, processed, and shipped in an Al Gore certified Prius driven by Mexican immigrants.


Fair enough. At least your honest.

And yeah, what TGT said^^^^^^^^^
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 9, 2011 - 09:57pm PT
Frances Fox Piven at a CNUY organizational meeting on 10/6/11

Who's preparing for violence and organizing this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSnzKNbCw74&feature=player_embedded

Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Oct 9, 2011 - 10:07pm PT
Pretty funny that I'd find this hilarious

"I actually partially agree with the commies in the streets. The problem is they don't know what the f*#k they're talking about."

 Two Bit-tuey says that he partially agrees with commies in the streets; people he says don't know what the f*#k they're talking about......


That's kinda lets us know exactly where his head is at... He agrees with people who don't know what the f*#k they're talking about....

He is firmly conservative.
He is firmly libertarian.
He is firmly reupublican....

That certainly fits his description of people he agrees with.....




bwahahahahahahaahhahahahah

You're too funny....


Sometimes I wish this was a video forum so that we could all see you blathering on about this or that non-issue


bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 9, 2011 - 10:11pm PT
If it's a fact, please cite one or more independent sources to prove it. I'm rather skeptical of claims that any group is cleaner or tidier than others.

I suspect that municipal police, emergency services, and garbage collection departments find all demonstrations a chore, with little to distinguish between them in terms of messes. One reason why they like such things to be planned, so there's at least some level of extra services available. The same amount/person of garbage and poop is produced, but providing ahead of time for it makes it a bit easier to clean up.


It IS A FACT. You know why? Some people follow the rules. Some people have standards of decency.

This is the difference between us and them. They will always be losers, until they grow up and get a f*#king life like every other responsible American.

Quit bitchin', start workin'!
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Oct 9, 2011 - 10:16pm PT
I have to repeat

"The Repubs had the Presidency, the Senate AND the House from 2000-2006.

The economy went into RECESSION in 2007.

See the relationship?

FAIL"




Wholly shite, I just wanted to make sure this didn't get erased once the idiot realizes how ridiculous the statement really is...



It IS A FACT. You know why? Some people follow the rules. Some people have standards of decency.

This is the difference between us and them. They will always be losers, until they grow up and get a f*#king life like every other responsible American.

Quit bitchin', start workin'!

First posted by a total retard
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 9, 2011 - 10:19pm PT
Keep reaching, Jingus, you may hit the bar....
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Oct 9, 2011 - 10:45pm PT
"
...which is where blurring desperately wishes he were, instead of getting drunk alone at his house while his family quietly weeps to themselves in the other room. Family values...woot! "


 Bwahahahaha


So.... I'm not the only one with this image of bluey...

Good to know.
monolith

climber
berzerkly
Oct 10, 2011 - 12:00am PT
That pic has been debunked, Tom. Still doesn't mean there is not significant people in this movement.

Rockermike was duped as well.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 10, 2011 - 12:05am PT
I no more believe that tea baggers/conservatives/republicans produce less (or more) poop and garbage at demonstrations than other groups, than I believe that their poop don't stink.

It is possible that given that the right may now be large and organized enough that it obtains the needed permits for their demonstrations, including providing portapotties, garbage, and cleanup. The "occupy Wall Street" people are numerous, but less focused and organized, and so not to that point. And the corporate and Republican links the tea baggers have developed undoubtedly help with obtaining permits and funding for demonstrations.

You don't have to be a teabagger to be a 'real' American. Many of their countrymen, of all political stripes, also share and act on values such as self-reliance, cleanliness, thrift, responsibility, etc.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Oct 10, 2011 - 12:12am PT
1) They are definitely Communists.

2) George Soros is definitely involved in backing these hippie low life protestors.

3) ACORN is busing them to the protests, just like ACORN bused in the poor to vote for the Democrats and paid them Federal money to vote Democrat.

4) They are violent THUGS who are unclean with their fecal matter

5) Their main goal is to unlawfully take money away from the rich, and the want to be rich

6) They are secretly taught to "organize" by the UNIONS, which I just hate so damn much

7) I bet a lot of them are homos.

8)

9)
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Oct 10, 2011 - 12:51am PT
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opinion/panic-of-the-plutocrats.html?src=ISMR_AP_LO_MST_FB

Panic of the Plutocrats
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: October 9, 2011
It remains to be seen whether the Occupy Wall Street protests will change America’s direction. Yet the protests have already elicited a remarkably hysterical reaction from Wall Street, the super-rich in general, and politicians and pundits who reliably serve the interests of the wealthiest hundredth of a percent.
And this reaction tells you something important — namely, that the extremists threatening American values are what F.D.R. called “economic royalists,” not the people camping in Zuccotti Park.
Consider first how Republican politicians have portrayed the modest-sized if growing demonstrations, which have involved some confrontations with the police — confrontations that seem to have involved a lot of police overreaction — but nothing one could call a riot. And there has in fact been nothing so far to match the behavior of Tea Party crowds in the summer of 2009.
Nonetheless, Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, has denounced “mobs” and “the pitting of Americans against Americans.” The G.O.P. presidential candidates have weighed in, with Mitt Romney accusing the protesters of waging “class warfare,” while Herman Cain calls them “anti-American.” My favorite, however, is Senator Rand Paul, who for some reason worries that the protesters will start seizing iPads, because they believe rich people don’t deserve to have them.
Michael Bloomberg, New York’s mayor and a financial-industry titan in his own right, was a bit more moderate, but still accused the protesters of trying to “take the jobs away from people working in this city,” a statement that bears no resemblance to the movement’s actual goals.
And if you were listening to talking heads on CNBC, you learned that the protesters “let their freak flags fly,” and are “aligned with Lenin.”
The way to understand all of this is to realize that it’s part of a broader syndrome, in which wealthy Americans who benefit hugely from a system rigged in their favor react with hysteria to anyone who points out just how rigged the system is.
Last year, you may recall, a number of financial-industry barons went wild over very mild criticism from President Obama. They denounced Mr. Obama as being almost a socialist for endorsing the so-called Volcker rule, which would simply prohibit banks backed by federal guarantees from engaging in risky speculation. And as for their reaction to proposals to close a loophole that lets some of them pay remarkably low taxes — well, Stephen Schwarzman, chairman of the Blackstone Group, compared it to Hitler’s invasion of Poland.

And then there’s the campaign of character assassination against Elizabeth Warren, the financial reformer now running for the Senate in Massachusetts. Not long ago a YouTube video of Ms. Warren making an eloquent, down-to-earth case for taxes on the rich went viral. Nothing about what she said was radical — it was no more than a modern riff on Oliver Wendell Holmes’s famous dictum that “Taxes are what we pay for civilized society.”
But listening to the reliable defenders of the wealthy, you’d think that Ms. Warren was the second coming of Leon Trotsky. George Will declared that she has a “collectivist agenda,” that she believes that “individualism is a chimera.” And Rush Limbaugh called her “a parasite who hates her host. Willing to destroy the host while she sucks the life out of it.”
What’s going on here? The answer, surely, is that Wall Street’s Masters of the Universe realize, deep down, how morally indefensible their position is. They’re not John Galt; they’re not even Steve Jobs. They’re people who got rich by peddling complex financial schemes that, far from delivering clear benefits to the American people, helped push us into a crisis whose aftereffects continue to blight the lives of tens of millions of their fellow citizens.
Yet they have paid no price. Their institutions were bailed out by taxpayers, with few strings attached. They continue to benefit from explicit and implicit federal guarantees — basically, they’re still in a game of heads they win, tails taxpayers lose. And they benefit from tax loopholes that in many cases have people with multimillion-dollar incomes paying lower rates than middle-class families.
This special treatment can’t bear close scrutiny — and therefore, as they see it, there must be no close scrutiny. Anyone who points out the obvious, no matter how calmly and moderately, must be demonized and driven from the stage. In fact, the more reasonable and moderate a critic sounds, the more urgently he or she must be demonized, hence the frantic sliming of Elizabeth Warren.
So who’s really being un-American here? Not the protesters, who are simply trying to get their voices heard. No, the real extremists here are America’s oligarchs, who want to suppress any criticism of the sources of their wealth.
A version of this op-ed appeared in print on October 10, 2011, on page A23 of the New York Times edition with the headline: Panic Of the Plutocrats.
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Oct 10, 2011 - 07:52am PT
the latest protest anthem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QTfNEDgusQ

bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Oct 10, 2011 - 08:03am PT
karl marx for dummies:


October 10, 2011

Occupy Wall Street: A Manifesto

By David Harsanyi
10/5/2011

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men, women and transgendered -- and any other human who is able to elude the tyranny of work for a couple of weeks -- are created equal. We gather to be free not of tyranny, but of responsibility and college tuitions. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that a government long established and a nation long prosperous be changed for light and transient causes. So let our demands* be submitted to a candid world.

First, we are imbued with as many inalienable rights as a few thousand college kids and a gaggle of borderline celebrities can concoct, among them a guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment and immediate across-the-board debt forgiveness -- even if that debt was acquired taking on a mortgage with a 4.1 percent interest rate and no money down, which, we admit, is a pretty sweet deal in historical context...

...but down with the modern gilded age!

We demand that a Master of Fine Arts in musical theater writing, with a minor in German, become an immutable human right, because education is crucial and rich people can afford to fund unemployment checks until we find jobs or in perpetuity, whichever comes first.

We demand a minimum wage of $10, no ... make it $20. We earned it. And we demand the end of "profiteering," because there is no better way to end joblessness than stopping the growth of capital. We also demand a maximum wage law, because selfish American dreams need a firm ceiling.

We demand the institution of direct democracy, because if a bunch of people say it's OK, it's OK. And everyone deserves to have his or her voice heard. Except Mr. Moneybags, who we demand stop contributing his own money to candidates we disagree with, to issue groups we loathe and to lobbyists who do not work for organizations featuring "Service," "Employees," "International" and/or "Union" in their title.

We demand the end to bailouts and corporate subsidies, unless we're talking about companies that feature sunflowers or sun rays in their logos, because that's the kind of morally gratifying institution we approve of, and thus, they should totally be fast-tracked and bailed out with your money to bring the fossil fuel economy ("the economy") to an end.

We demand the end to a corrupt Wall Street ("Apple" "your 401(k)") because banks hold too much power. We demand that government consolidate authority so that elected officials can make prudent choices for us. All that cash in banks was printed by the war god Mars and has nothing to do with the voluntary deposits by ordinary Americans, so we do not consider this theft.

We demand the end to corporate censorship, because if we can't force private news organizations to run the types of stories with which we agree, there can't be a healthy democracy. So actually, we demand the end of all corporate news organizations in the name of free speech.

We demand the end to health profiteering, because everyone knows that all the wondrous and lifesaving advances in modern medicine were invented in the People's Democratic Republic of Laos. Smart people work for the good of humanity, not because they're greedy.

We demand these rights because of the mass injustice of being able to freely protest against racism and corporatism without any real fear of imprisonment in the most diverse city on earth. And to the wiseguy who walked by the other day and claimed that I'd be writing this manifesto with a quill pen on parchment paper if it weren't for capitalism, we have two words for you: Koch brothers. Think about it.

This is the fifth communique from the 99.9 percent. We are occupying Wall Street, and we're not going home until it gets really cold.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 10, 2011 - 10:10am PT
...which is where blurring desperately wishes he were, instead of getting drunk alone at his house while his family quietly weeps to themselves in the other room. Family values...woot! "


Bwahahahaha


So.... I'm not the only one with this image of bluey...

Good to know.


You two losers must be jealous of my family to always bring them up in these discussions.....

Go crap on a cop car. It's where you belong.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 10, 2011 - 10:22am PT
Get paid to protest!

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/gov/2618821815.html

The pinkos are now paying for protesters.


350-650 a week to play bongos in the park and crap on cop cars.
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