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Aeriq

Social climber
Location: It's a MisterE
Oct 6, 2018 - 09:50pm PT
I have gotten to the point where I pretty much don't trust white males unless they are Trad Daddy Dirtbags from BITD that smoke pot constantly and live in a VW bus, with a flip-phone and Birkenstocks - as well as a bank balance of less than $5K.

Trying to be generous with my assessment, here.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Oct 6, 2018 - 09:53pm PT
The supreme court recently ruled against the republicans' redistricting program that gave republican candidates an unfair advantage over democrat candidates ... If that case had come up with justice cavanaugh on the supreme court bench you can bet the illegal redistricting program would continue unabated.. America's political system is seriously broken when either political party , typically the business friendly republican party , can shove a cattle prod up the supreme courts back side to satisfy the special interests of corporate America...
Aeriq

Social climber
Location: It's a MisterE
Oct 6, 2018 - 10:02pm PT
The "Supreme" Court thing has always felt to me like a weak point/easily abused privilege in our checks and balances.
Just look at their title, power and length of appointment.

All it takes is a strong flow of influence to humanize a construct. Examples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Clara_County_v._Southern_Pacific_Railroad_Co.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC



John M

climber
Oct 6, 2018 - 10:23pm PT
There seem to be a lot of privileged self hating white men posting here about hating other privileged white men because they're white and privileged and.... stuff...

mercy you have it bad.

I'm very certain that there are very few "self hating white men" on this forum. Most of them are quite happy with their lives. What they are, are people who see the need to use that privilege/power to help those without privilege. That used to be a conservative value. But with the advent of the war cry of "welfare queen", the conservative party has become hard hearted and self centered and appears to be controlled by the major corporations. Thats what the "privileged white men" on this site complain about. That and the fact that it appears to many on the left that the right is now made up of a bunch of people who are so afraid of their own shadow that they need a military that spends more on itself then the next 8 most expensive militaries in the world today. boo! Please don't twist that into meaning that I don't want a strong military. I do.. I just don't believe that we need to spend as much as we do. I believe that we could cut military spending by 25 percent and still be strong. We could then use that money to pay down the debt and fix some of our infrastructure. Edit: and please understand that I realize it would be bad to cut military spending by 25 percent in one fell swoop.

....

Jim, you are oversimplifying things. Telling people "just vote" isn't enough. Its been tried over and over. Millions have been spent on campaigns to get the vote out. It helps, but it is not enough.

Edit: Hillary helped get the vote our by calling a group of people "deplorable". thats one prime reasons she lost.
Aeriq

Social climber
Location: It's a MisterE
Oct 6, 2018 - 10:38pm PT
Forest for the trees, People.

The "Blame Game" is another construct.

Ugh - I should disappear again, but this sh#t hits me hard...

Lituya

Mountain climber
Oct 6, 2018 - 10:59pm PT
Jim, you are oversimplifying things. Telling people "just vote" isn't enough. Its been tried over and over. Millions have been spent on campaigns to get the vote out. It helps, but it is not enough.

Ummmmmmmmm, yea, wow, ya know this whole democracy thing is just so inconvenient for us lefties. If only there was another way...
John M

climber
Oct 6, 2018 - 11:03pm PT
good grief Lituya.. your whole poor me aggrieved schtick has gotten old. grow up man.

I didn't say one thing about democracy being a burden.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Oct 6, 2018 - 11:08pm PT
John M....I think most of theTrump supporters who were called deplorable didn't know what deplorable meant...Let's face it , Hillary was boring , under-whelming , and seriously lacking in leadership qualities...The picture of Trump rudely following her around the debate stage was a sign of weakness...Maxine Waters would have put Trump in his place...Hillary blew a perfect opportunity to score some big points...Loser...
Lituya

Mountain climber
Oct 6, 2018 - 11:35pm PT
Aggrieved? Geeez, man, wake up! It's what you & LibCo do here every minute of the day.

Carry on.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Oct 7, 2018 - 04:36am PT
I don’t have a flip phone or Birkenstocks.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 7, 2018 - 09:25am PT
bitterness is a result of feeling aggrieved about something. your tone is bitter.

So what ‘tone’ is that, B flat?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Oct 7, 2018 - 09:29am PT
B flat....? Try A sharp....
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 7, 2018 - 09:32am PT
Aeriq, I haven't a flip-phone, don't like Birkenstock's prices, and will ne'er have a VW bus.

I fit the rest of those criteria, however. Thank you for your trust.

You oughta stick around, dude. Your sobriety is appreciated.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 7, 2018 - 09:48am PT

Is Brett Kavanaugh Damaged Goods?
The Supreme Court's newest justice will take to the bench after a brutal confirmation battle. Can he overcome it?
By POLITICO STAFF October 06, 2018

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/06/kavanaugh-confirmation-reaction-221087

A long read, but a useful perspective looking back and forward towards the role of the highest level of the judicial branch of our government.

The bloody process & Kavanaughs qualifications aside, what is most worrying to me is the continued erosion of our political discourse and process, and the perception of illegitimacy that may result from the politicization of the judicial branch of government.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Oct 7, 2018 - 09:55am PT
It ain’t all pretty, but Jim Brennan speaks a lot of truth, eh?
10b4me

Social climber
Lida Junction
Oct 7, 2018 - 10:16am PT
The bloody process & Kavanaughs qualifications aside, what is most worrying to me is the continued erosion of our political discourse and process, and the perception of illegitimacy that may result from the politicization of the judicial branch of government.

Is this the result of the 2000 presidential election, or is it the result of eight years of an Obama presidency?
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Oct 7, 2018 - 10:34am PT
Definitely what Jaybro said.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Oct 7, 2018 - 10:55am PT



And now:




It's morning again, in America!

Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Oct 7, 2018 - 12:36pm PT
It's sad that brainiacs like Edward T don't see Kavanaugh's appointment as one more nail in the coffin of an independent judicary. The Republicans have already ceded the other branch of the government, the Legislative, to Trump, who they dare don't oppose lest they risk their re-elections chances. Mainstream Republicans either don't exist or just shrug their shoulders and convince themselves that the true evil is Nancy Pelosi (because...?).

One step closer to a dictatorship.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 7, 2018 - 01:36pm PT
10b, in terms of the shift in political discourse & process, I think it began during Clinton, and intensified through Bush and Obama, with both sides participating. Even during the Reagan years, there seemed to be more political middle ground and willingness to find it in the greater interest of the country.

Though I don’t think it’s in the long term interest of America, McConnell has my admiration for having identified a set of objectives for the GOP, and then achieving them through a fairly Machiavellian process. The only alternative Dems have at this point is to match and exceed that strategy, and between the two parties operating this way, that is not a bright shiny path for any of us.
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