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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 02:10pm PT
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Nov 30, 2014 - 02:11pm PT
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Except, obviously, Willbeer....
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Nov 30, 2014 - 02:14pm PT
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If time is spent on caring then I am sorry about the time lost on the snow. Would that make me care? Oops!
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briham89
Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
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Nov 30, 2014 - 02:17pm PT
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It's true...
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ground_up
Trad climber
mt. hood /baja
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Nov 30, 2014 - 02:28pm PT
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Whatever tickles yer wiener . As a career alpine race coach I think
getting on tele gear is great for your skiing , period.
Then there are those that love " posing" the free heel , the
" look at me types " .
but nobody cares
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 02:30pm PT
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Oh the Apathy.
Hey,Their rep[Faction] just handed me some new skis and lift tickets.
Am I sponsored?
Does not matter,I will be in Colorado in Febuary.[Probably the whole month]
Yesir......ha ha ha.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 02:30pm PT
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 02:48pm PT
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"but nobody cares"
LOL.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 30, 2014 - 02:58pm PT
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That's fine. Sure is fun, though!
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knucko
climber
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Nov 30, 2014 - 03:10pm PT
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Lock your heels and ski for real!
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Nov 30, 2014 - 03:14pm PT
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Are you a refugee from TTips?
Should we go over to TGR and get watch you get flamed by the hucksters?
Screw it - snow is flying in the Sierra so whatever you do is good.
But watch for that apogee person - I heard they poop in the skin track!
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Nov 30, 2014 - 03:19pm PT
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I just want snow so I can tele......
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 03:22pm PT
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"Am I a refugee from ttips"
No.I do not Care for them....
This could be fun....lol
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Stewart Johnson
climber
lake forest
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Nov 30, 2014 - 03:29pm PT
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As a die hard telemarker
I finally fixed my heel
And fixed my mind
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Nov 30, 2014 - 03:35pm PT
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broken binding , broken brain...
Fix the heel, fix the problem :)
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Chris Cunningham
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Nov 30, 2014 - 03:39pm PT
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No idea what the F tele is.
Does it involve a dork stick...something you hold with a GoPro attached so you can film your favorite movie star?
For damn sure it does not involve climbing.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Nov 30, 2014 - 04:02pm PT
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Never really understood it. I can admire someone who does it well I guess.
Kinda the same as climbing in these....
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telemon01
Trad climber
Montana
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Nov 30, 2014 - 04:03pm PT
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I care Wilbeer. Nordic skis in that east coast dog hair is just the thing.
However....
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 30, 2014 - 04:05pm PT
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Nobody cares if you Tele Them's fightin' words.
I'm gonna kick yer arse.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
The tele skiers in this video aren't very good, but it's a decent video anyway.
They gotta learn to ski in the fall line and quit the typical tele traversing crap.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 04:09pm PT
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That is some quality
Caring.
Harry you know where I live...lol
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Nov 30, 2014 - 04:22pm PT
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Locker, that tele looks seriously modded. Bridge humbucker? Sounds like a telecaster with an inferiority complex wishing that Les Paul was its daddy.
Now this is a tele:
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Nov 30, 2014 - 04:34pm PT
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Who gives a f*#k anyway.
The Central Scrutinizer.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 04:51pm PT
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I care.
Jim,Harry ,I agree.The vid I posted shows the dude skiing fast GS style turns ,which is one thing I really enjoy .
Bombing groomers or cols, with few turns ,is something.
Skiing tight trees is another.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 30, 2014 - 05:06pm PT
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That's why AT gear now rules.
Dunno, climbing on AT gear hurts my feet, I need my foot to flex.
Classic Telemark skiing died with the introduction of plastic tele boots. After that, what was the point in free heels if you could parallel turn your ass out of a jam when needed due to plastc bellowed technology ? Something about the floppy binding and plastic boots makes it a lot easier for me to ski. I parallel 95% of the time on tele gear, but put me in alpine (or locked-down AT gear) and I can't do sh#t.
The lack of control with tele gear gives me more control. Dunno why. I could never ski this sh#t on alpine gear, but I shred on floppy cable bindings and leather boots.
I fuking love tele. More than any other sport. Even climbing.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 05:14pm PT
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You are right SLR,The sloppy[to some] interface and the lack of WEIGHT requires competence.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 30, 2014 - 05:16pm PT
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competence You mean fluidity
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 05:17pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
My favorite Tele,David Gilmour on PF's Dogs.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 05:18pm PT
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You bet.
Glad you care.
I am pretty stoked for this season.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 05:21pm PT
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Caring right there^^^^^^^^
EDIT;SLR,I am still coming down there to ski www.whitegrass.com
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Fuzzywuzzy
climber
suspendedhappynation
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Nov 30, 2014 - 05:45pm PT
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It was a "Party Trick" back then and is so today as well.
But what a blast. To all who slide I salute you!!!
Have fun this winter.
TC
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 30, 2014 - 05:47pm PT
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That's a classic pic, SLR. Stand Ups & spring tele!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 06:11pm PT
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KabalaArch
Trad climber
Starlite, California
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Nov 30, 2014 - 06:19pm PT
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BITD a local athlete was crowned the “Bo of Snow” for winning a combined Alpine, Tele, Snowboard competition up at Whistler. To master all 3 disciplines on an international venue is impressive!
Despite the animosity between the Alpine and the Snowboarders at the time, I was moved to learn snowboarding – especially with the addition of our newborn son (who ended up preferring skis anyway).
Loved the Nordic, but just couldn't seem to get the Tele turn wired. There's guys out there who skate ski the frontcountry in the spring, right at dawn, when all is frozen. Witness their tracks on the unplowed Tioga Pass, coming in from the east gate. Quite possible to do a Trans-Sierra,via Snow Creek descent into the Valley, in a day. With nothing more than some sunscreen, and a CC for the room you've reserved at the Ahwahnee – right?
So, it's randanee FTTB (French for “can't Tele”). But I've logged quite a few 5,000 foot days on the olde Tua “S Capes” metal edged waxless skinnys with NNN bindings and light leather boots. Really super fast on the upski, the gear is so light.
But a midwinter descent in “legbreaker crust” usually results in a bodyslam fest.
Honestly, a “tele” setup with plastic boot shells, wyde alpine skis, cable bindings weighs as much as AT gear.
That's what we're talking about. Randanee, that is.
Incidentally, the wye chutes to the climber's right have been brought forward as a skier's target as well, but the consensus holds that it's all talk at this point. John Mendleson climbing route, which he modestly graded Class 3 - he graded his direct E. Couloir over on Mt. Laurel across the Lake Class 2. This one has been skiied...not likely to get bumped out anytime soon.
I'd been introduced to a skier of Canadian extraction, who held to a burning desire to ski one of the westerly Mt. Morrison wye chutes as, I gathered, was a fairly recent objective, assuming complusive attraction.
He'd already gone and upskied to a recon Bivi in the Hanging Valley, evidently.
He also mentioned that his divorce proceedings were finally nearing their resolution. Mentioned that he wanted to take his skiing to a new and higher level.
So things promised to be exciting - until I remembered I had already committed myself to some very important "Honey Dew" projects around the Lazy 8 Ranch - washing the car had become the priority.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 30, 2014 - 06:21pm PT
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Did someone say stand-ups and spring corn telemarking?
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 06:29pm PT
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Locker is Kojaking this thread.Is that possible?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 30, 2014 - 06:35pm PT
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 06:55pm PT
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@Kojacking
Caring..
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 07:19pm PT
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edit;recycling one of my photos before this thread is @Kojacked
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thebravecowboy
climber
walking, resin-stained, towards the goal
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Nov 30, 2014 - 07:23pm PT
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I guess I would amend that to: Nobody cares if you ski.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2014 - 07:28pm PT
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Exactly.
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TwistedCrank
climber
Released into general population, Idaho
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Nov 30, 2014 - 07:35pm PT
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Nobody cares about anything.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 30, 2014 - 09:57pm PT
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I've always thought of tele skiers as slalom gates... only more stationary..
You're safe for now Wilbeer, 'cause now I got someone else's arse that I'm gonna kick first.
Who else here has dropped chutes or faces in the Sierra on 3-pins? I've done U-Notch, Mountaineer's Route, Thunderbolt Couloir, N Face of Whitney and NW chute of Little Lakes Peak.
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MisterE
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Nov 30, 2014 - 11:42pm PT
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any video that started with c.r.a.p. makes me wonder, but nonetheless:
Free your heel and free your mind!
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climber bob
Social climber
maine
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gotta love those telecopters...
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 04:26am PT
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Agreed,Bob.
The word"love" has been used here a few times.That is ,[Click to View YouTube Video]
Very caring.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 04:40am PT
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Yes SLR.
Half the ski ,Twice the Man.
LOL.
Not a Tele,But made by Fender
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Nobody cares that You Telly is the antidote to the rediculous sense of overblown pride that many telle skiers get from sking on stupidly expensive high technology equiptment.. WTF? I telle and nordic but its just sking fer christs sake. many of these people think they are the second comming of christ just because they telle.....
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 05:15am PT
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Tradman,I thought you live in Vermont..........lol
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raymond phule
climber
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Teleskiing is a dead end. The whole world (including norway) except North America it seems has realized that randonne is much better at everything.
Free heal skiing is for groomed tracks and backcountry trips in easy terrain when you want to go light with waxed skies and don't care about the downhill sections.
The future is also to skate with really light skate skies in the mountains when the snow is really hard. It works very well on everything except really step downhills if the surface is the right one and you can go really fast.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Yes i do live in VT, i do not even own alpine skies. I do telle or XC ski 100% of the time and i hate that f*#king sticker. the crew that sports those stickers are a bunch of pompus yuppies who think their sh#t smells like roses. It's just sking. it ain't no big fcking deal. Kind of reminds me of the 5.6 bumbly with a huge rack of tri cams and hexes who makes a big stink out of being a Trad Climber......
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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I am tempted to switch to AT gear.. Not shure if I would know how to ski it? I really like the telle boots for work comfort but the telle system absolutly sucks for takeing you skies on and off on steep icey race trails.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 05:45am PT
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Pompus......
Well,I did just spill my hazelnut coffee.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Yes i do live in VT, i do not even own alpine skies. I do telle or XC ski 100% of the time and i hate that f*#king sticker. the crew that sports those stickers are a bunch of pompus yuppies who think their sh#t smells like roses. It's just sking. it ain't no big fcking deal. Kind of reminds me of the 5.6 bumbly with a huge rack of tri cams and hexes who makes a big stink out of being a Trad Climber......
Does Tradster need a new tube of klister for Christmas?
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Petch
Gym climber
knapsack crack
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Look at me, bend my knee!
What does telemark mean in Jamaican ?
Hey mon, wait for me.
I'm hoping for a good winter this year so I can drag my sack in some fresh. Trench style of course!
Love 'n' turns
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 06:09am PT
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See what I mean?
"Tele skiing is a dead end."
LOL.
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crankster
Trad climber
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We all tele'd at one time. Essential turn. Most have move on, for good reason.
Not that bIg a deal...just ski.
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Bad Climber
climber
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My short-lived downhill skiing life consisted of only tele. It was fun. If I had easier access to snow, I might still be doing it. Who cares how ANYONE skis? Tribalism is way stupid.
BAd
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 06:35am PT
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For the
"Bodyslam Fest".......HAHAHA!
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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You know what the AT skier told the Tele skier on top of the mountain?
"See you at the bottom hippy", that always cracked me up having been a hippy and damn good one at that. I must admit I've fixed my heels for good now with the super light and well engineered Dynafit bindings.
BTW there's a bunch of hippy's out there I still can't keep up with, see you in the Trench you hippy Petch! When it comes to skiing it's all good, my 15 minutes of fame as a tele skier:
Charlie D.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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the local moms are talking shite about
me to my wife...
incriminating accusations that could defile my upstanding status
within our aspiring community.
when questioned, i denied with uncompromised honesty, all charges.
then i thought about it, and about the accusers...
and i realized and told my wife such,
that they just want me to be single
so's that they can get a chunk.
i'm going skeezin...
where the audience don't care
about truths, gossip and lies.
where tits take a back seat to cold, hard stone
and soft powder spilled everywhere...
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goatboy smellz
climber
लघिमा
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This discussion is new and exciting.
What are you going to tackle next week?
Rotary phones versus dial tone?
Those kids plugged in to their Walkmans not paying attention?
How about Mary Ann or Ginger?
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 08:09am PT
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Looks like he cares.lol.
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mark miller
Social climber
Reno
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Locker knows how to tele properly.
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Mike Friedrichs
Sport climber
City of Salt
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Nobody cares how you ski, but good god man don't contaminate your coffee with hazelnut.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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I care. I care a lot. I'd Tele again in a heartbeat if I could. Unfortunately, an arthritic toe prevents me from getting down in any reasonable stance. My right knee splays way out.
So my heels are now locked in permanently.
Oh well....at least I'm still schussing.
Susan
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"See you at the bottom hippy"
Bwa-HAAAA!
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Barbarian
climber
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The most fun I ever had sliding on snow was on my Europa 99 215s, 75mm 3 pins, and leather boots. Kicking and gliding, linking tle turns down the fall line, paralleling on hard pack, corn skiing eastside chutes...all good. Obviously I care...which probably makes me some, irrelevant old hippie.
That said, I love downhilling on fixed-heel gear as well. I love it all except those confounded snow board thingys.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Chim Chim. you just did it. Telle skier disses how other people ski and then braggs about lifting their heel. fills me with the urge to vomit profusely. It's just fecking sking and as long as they are outside getting some fresh air and making turns who cares? The telle ski police care. Fck em...
BTW I doubt i would even know how to ski with my heel locked in?
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10b4me
climber
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"Free your heels, and you free your mind"
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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PS. this reminds me of a hippy friend who got sick of people flashing him the peace sighn in is 55 micro buss so he started flipping the bird back at them:)
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Broken binding broken brain.
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rincon
Trad climber
Coarsegold
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Hey eastside, that pic going up chair 23 with the powder below....I've seen that scene many times. But it'll all be tracked by the time you get by the top! Look at all them people on the lift ahead of you! As I'm sure you know...the backside would still have freshies, but ya gotta hurry! Trying to ski powder at a resort stresses me out too much... watching it all get trashed.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Ha. I am on 2003 alpine ski that I bought un mounted in 2006. put telle bindings on them. My boots are garmont veloce about 10 or so years old? I desperatly need new sh#t....
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Tradster needs jet-stix to upgrade...
... do wheelie turns!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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I have 2 buckel and all the velcro is gone from my powerstrap :(
when you look at the new telle boots they are monsters. 4 buckels and a powerstrap. just as big or bigger than an alpine boot, 3in of fcking lift, a binding that is so stiff that when you shoot photos of telle skiers going off jumps in the park the skies don't even sagg. they are pinned to the heel by the super stiff cable. All that sh#t and the telle skiers still think their sh#t don't stink and that they are better than all the other skiers and riders on the hill solely on the fact that they are on cool(in their own mind) gear.....
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Grippa
Trad climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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As long as you shred the pow you're good in my mind. Have fun, and be safe is #1. I used to sn0wboard 30 days a year, and ski 100+. Still have never tele skied however, but really want a set up to round out my winter quiver!
Here's a shot of me from 10 years ago.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Hey SC Seagoat...sorry about the arthritis but nothing like being forced to do differently! Sometimes.. Or escape ones comfy zone...
I am hoping my Morton's neuroma doesn't flair up as bad as it did last year. It limited my nordiskate and tele season a bit...quite a bit!! If it flairs, I'll be lookin' at splits at the end of this winter. I always loved snowboarding but the mobility of them sucked 20 or so years ago so I got walking skis. Oh, and yeah, at least you can still cruise it on the snow!
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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What's the line on TGR?
"My binders go to eleven".
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Fix the heel, fix the problem!
Buffalo Pass, Wilbeer? Nice! I've played there, lived in Steamboat for a couple of years, but I probably told you that already.
Sliding is rad, no matter how you slice it.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"Broken binding broken brain."
Boy, for someone who takes exception to the supposed over-the-top attitude of tele skiiers, you sure seem to have a lot of attitude.
Who cares? Like you said, skiing is just fun. Go skiing!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 10:07am PT
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Glisse.
It is not exclusive to any brand of snow sliding.
Whatever blows your hair back!
SC,I have Rheumatoid Arthritis,hands,wrists and shoulders.
You must keep going:)
Tradman,I have access to a ton of gear,Let me know if you would like to ski sometime.I do not ride lifts much,especially if I lived up in Vermont.
Ever skied Lincoln Pass?Some of the best BC in the east right there.[Click to View YouTube Video]
Love the Boat,Brandon,Buff Pass,Never Summer,yeah,I am heading back.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 10:12am PT
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How Logical......lol
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raymond phule
climber
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When a skier locks down their heels they are essentially using training wheels. I stand up and use parallel turns 70% of the time and tele when it is more efficient. Skiing is skiing and I don't need training wheels to ride my bike either.
I really don't get this thinking (serious or not). A good teleskier has no chance against a good fixed heel skier. Fixed heel skiing just give you more possibilities. Then when the randonne gear is lighter and easier to walk with I really can't see any reason to tele.
I also kind of doubt that the tele turn is better than a parallel turn with teleboats in any condition...
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F
climber
away from the ground
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 11:15am PT
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I do love Tele(s).[Click to View YouTube Video]
Hey ,Jim Brennan,here you are!
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Man, it's time to shred!
Let's all get out there on whatever plank we choose, sliding and hucking is the source!
I never feel more at peace with the world than when I'm out in deep pow, charging hard.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 11:21am PT
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Hey F,That is a great shot.....man.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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SC,I have Rheumatoid Arthritis,hands,wrists and shoulders.
You must keep going:)
YES! I only have it in my right toe. Has no flex whatsoever so on Tele it just rolls to the outside. I've tried to compensate but it's way too much work since I can just lock down and take off. I still prefer off piste.
I can still cross country because the turning isn't (usually) as fast or as frequent. But it's all academic until we get some snow!
Susan
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"Never locked 'em down so don't know what I'm missing. "
Me, either. Didn't start skiing until my early 30's, and learned on a pair of Tua 210 & Merrell XCD's...did the Sierra High Route the same year with a 65 lb pack!
It kicked my ass so hard I kept my skins on until reaching the Tablelands...then something clicked, and I had one my most glorious days in the mountains.
Never skiied with heels locked, but with the new gear that's out there, I'll probably make the leap. Hopefully the tele habit will never leave, either. It's all....GREAT!
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Barbarian
climber
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This thread means nothing without eKat!
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AKDOG
Mountain climber
Anchorage, AK
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It is all good, love both styles, just bring on the snow, been a dry winter up here
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Microwaves heat food up hella faster too, but I never use one, unless I have to. I never understood the efficiency argument for a recreational activity. Climbing up the steep side of a cliff sure as hell isn't always the most efficient.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 01:19pm PT
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Cragar,Where do you ski up in"only 20 miles from Montana"?
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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^^No Comprendo
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 01:26pm PT
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Just referring to a bumper sticker I have seen in Montana several times that read"Missoula ,only 20 miles from Montana".
Still do not know what they mean,just thought it was common knowledge up your way.
Been up your way a few times,want to find some good BC is all.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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I think AT might be better for skinning? I have armt surplus cable AT bindings on some really light skies for approach with my ice climbing boots. They climb much better than my real Telle skies.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Ha! I see... You know, I was wondering if it was something along those lines but I remember it as 15 minutes?!
What the hell, let's take 5...
I could get shot for this. There is a lot around and the access can be an issue depending on time of season, snow machine, etc. Give a shout next time and I can give you some real-time beta. Or some PM maps..
In the meantime, think: slog, views, wolves, blue smoke, nobody, micro-zones, dogs, elk stix, nobody, critters, slog, quiet -> so therefore, a very low-bro zone. Not at all the best GnarGnar but damn, the space, the space. It can almost be too much at ti....well, not really.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 01:43pm PT
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Very Caring and true,thank you Tami:) You as well Cragar.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2014 - 01:49pm PT
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Yes ,the space.....
I have drifted,I blame Locker.
Hey,the work day is over.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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I've been rockin' the "Nobody Cares That You Tele" bumper sticker so long it's almost illegible. No one gets it.
I mix it up still, lockin' the heels down, but there's nothing like tele turns in powder. If you get it you get it.
I can't really think of an appropriate climbing analogy. There is none. Maybe great ice sticks or perfect hands, but those are so fleeting.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Which skier is having the most fun in the Selkirks? The AT skier on the left or the tele skier on the right?
Anyway you cut it, skiing is a pure joy!
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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I don't care what anyone else thinks, but I care if I tele! It feels so good - there's no utilitarian argument that would convince anybody - but you know it if you have experienced it. In the powder, especially. The telemark lead change gives you an added dimension of movement that gives you one more way to massage the snow, and be massaged in return. But like many of the best things in life, you have to pay some dues to get there. People who say they don't care if you tele, are really saying they don't want to put in the effort to learn. They don't know what they're missing - and shrug it off by saying they don't care.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Long may you turn Urmas, see you this winter......Praise Ningue!!!!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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I don't care if you tele when there's a stelly on my frontal lobes...
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sempervirens
climber
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Does anyone have a link to Andrew McClean's essay on telemarking? I read it several years ago and it is amusing. I can't find it, might have been published in Backcountry or Couloir.
In the last 12 years (they go by fast, eh) I've only telly'd, but only because I'm too cheap to upgrade my alpine gear. They compliment each other. Striding,skating, alpine, and telly are all complimentary. And so damn much fun. Snowboarding didn't like me.
More importantly, it is finally precipitating in northern California. Church is for people who don't know how to ski.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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I've done a lot of alpine and a fair amount of tele and snowboarding.
For many aspects of objective downhill performance (e.g. Time/speed on most types of race courses, the biggest air, the most flips and/or spins possible) I don't think you can beat alpine. It's a more natural position. Alpine is also nice in that you can bang out a bunch of quick turns or throw down some long arcs, your choice.
Teles shine when touring with a lot of transitions from flat to downhill,, the gear is really comfortable, the tele turn feels great and gets you lower for more face shots in powder.
Boarding is great for relaxed riding, standing comfortably on both legs and arcing smooth turns. It has its own unique and fulfilling feel too.
To me they are all very good and I could give up any of them and remain 99% as happy.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Urmas. there you are with your telle elitist BS. many of us are pretty decent telle skiers and were actually pretty darn good at one point or annother but old knees don't like telle turns all that much. I shure as hell am not going to drop that knee just so everyone is shure to know that i am on telles. A shure sign of someone thinks they are extra cool for telleing is the long slow extra deep telle slide into the lift line;)
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2014 - 05:11am PT
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Urmas touched on the "Apathy" I HUMOR with here.
I do not think it is based in anything elitist.
Maybe with the groomer crowd,I would not know.I predominantly ski BC.
My kinship to any form of skiing comes from 40 years of Hockey and Speed skating.Growing up in the level of Hockey I was playing there was no room[read had to chose]between skiing and hockey.
That said ,I would still sneak off and ski with friends at night at the local CC area,Mendon Ponds.
It was not until my Hockey career and SS had run it's course.
Aided by the crushing blow of Eric Heiden crushing everyone at Lake Placids 76 Olympic tryout .
I did my first Hockey stops on free heel gear soon after.Then the work began.
I ski with splitboarders,AT,skate skiers and even when inbounds ,Downhill racers.
That is a Big part of where I live.
Flyin' Ian,the splitboarder from Vermont,hard to keep with.
Thom ,the Paramarker,who you could not tell what kind of gear he skis.He ,for awhile taught skiers at a local hill how to ski Alpine,on free heel gear.
Bruce,man,I cannot make a thing out in those photos,those are some sick ski objectives.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2014 - 06:00am PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
For me ,mobility is the key,here in the east,or deep out back in the west,to find the goods,one has to be mobile,in comfort.
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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People that think there are any serious advantages to having a free heel, in terms of actual skiing, are fooling themselves. Yes the boots are more comfy, and yes there's more ease of mobility for walking around in and out of your skis (this helps a lot when I'm setting camera traps for rabbits), on really slow and methodical, technical downhills I feel like I have a slight advantage with that added flexibility/mobility, etc., etc., but otherwise, all I see are disadvantages in terms of stability, efficiency, safety, etc. Front-pointing up the firm without crampons and a floppy toe is way sketchier. I wear myself out before my friends do. (Some of) my friends have to wait for me at the bottom. Etc. However, it is an undeniably more expressive and fun way to get down the hill. I'd say ~ 95% of my friends have gone over to Dynafits, at least for the majority of their ski time (i.e., they still tele when with the kids at the resort), but I don't see myself ever going over to the dark side. I ski for fun. Tele, to me, is just plain way more fun. YMMV.
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Telemark skiing is like driving an old classic sports car: It's fun, even though my Subaru goes faster, and probably even generates more G force in turns, but when it comes to "road feel" the old vehicle wins hands down!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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A really good skier with modern telle gear can do anything a AT or downhill skier can do. it's just a little more work and not always as fast but it ain't that big a deal.. it's just sking:)
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2014 - 05:07pm PT
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Just imagining that tune with a raspy guitar track as done by Roy Buchanan along with it.
On his Tele......LOL.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2014 - 05:09pm PT
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Just for clarification here:
I started this tread as a veiled joke to get stoked, with some new skis,hoping it would rub off ,knowing there are some very talented Telemark skiers here.
I am not comparing telemark skiing to any other form of sliding.
Look at the opening video and see how far telemark skiing has come.I mean backwards tele landings from tele jumps.Holy crap!I can barely do a backward tele let alone nail landings.....lol.
Even at my best form,years ago,it was not that I did not have the balls,just did not have that kind of talent ,on any free heel equipment.
The part about caring, I do jest,having a little fun.
But really,I work at a bike shop,we sell and rent nordic gear.
Fatbikes that folks ride in the winter are outselling skis 15 to 1.
We used to sell a bunch of nordic gear,skate,classic and telemark.
The drop off in the last 10 years has been hard to quantify.
I could care less about those who put out that sticker.I have seen it for years.
The thing is,it is true.
The two mountains[ski areas]near me do not even have telemark instructors,they did,good friends of mine,for years.
My friends at Pack,Paddle and Ski[a guide] do not even offer BC or ski trips anymore,something they did for years.
I know that is the reality.
Just do not have to like it.
So,I care.
Love the comments.
Thank you all so far ,I do appreciate the "caring."
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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I have not had a real ski job in about 5 years but @ that time it seemed like telle was going main stream as the latest cool extreem sport. Lift service @ Okemo and killington on Telle gear = extra cool Extreeeme :)
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2014 - 05:30pm PT
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Tradman,kind of why I was kidding you earlier about Vermont,I have been a few places in my life,but,seemed like everyone up there skis Telemark.
EDIT;And just so you know my sister used to live in Burlington,I have skied there plenty.Great Fun!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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And they think they are wicked cool for lifting their heel...
Me on a bulletproof Moosalake last spring.. You can not really tell but the baskets are ductape specials, boots were 2nd hand end of season rentals in about 2000, the skies are a 2003 all mtn K2 bought on ebay unmounted in the plastic for $118 and mounted in 2006. I had a full time winter ski job from 97 to 2009 and kind of sort of part time gig since then so the boots have been brutalized and the skies just broken in a bit..
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crankster
Trad climber
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I would never argue skiing with a guy named Urmas, but about 90% of the tele skiers I have known here in Truckee over the last 20 years have switched to AT, Dynafit, specifically. Most would revert to an alpine turn when the going got rough anyway. And ice, wow, ice...not the place for a free heel, IMHO.
It all gets lost in the hilarity of skiing.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Love this thread!
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10b4me
climber
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Most of the people I skied with could turn in one direction easier than they could the other. I could to the left easier than I could to the right. I used to telemark with someone who seemingly could turn in either direction with ease. I mentioned this to him one day, and he must have thought about it too much. His turns that day weren't pretty. :-)
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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I wouldn't mind putting a little tele or some more advanced turns in my quiver. Been reading the books but need to translate that into muscle memory. Where's a good place to get a lesson?
QITNL, one of the best tele instructors on the planet is posting on this thread. Take some lessons with Urmas - http://skiwithurmas.com/
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Hi There it's me lurking over here! I'm grateful to Kunlun Shan for the recommendation! I naturally will defend telemark skiing to the death, as I have worked to grow the sport and show people how to have more fun doing it for over 20 years. I also, believe it or not, have friends - my wife even - who AT ski now. That's cool, but Telemark skiing is not going away. The numbers have probably been pared down to the core people who genuinely enjoy it. The people who had hoped to enhance their prestige by doing it have left. Good riddance!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Urmas...You have friends..?
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crankster
Trad climber
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Moose, rain in town. 7,500'k snow level. Hope it comes down tomorrow.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Just think, skis are a good example of superhuman prosthetics.. I want more things like that.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Urmas, I was fortunate enough to attend the Bear Valley Tele Fest in 2006, when it was 4 days long - they added Thursday for skiing with the PSIA Nordic Demo Team; Urmas, Craig Panarisi and Scott McGee.
My skiing improved 100% in those few days. Lots of exercises to break down a tele turn, build and improve fundamentals. I've been tele skiing since the early '80's, have a strong alpine ski background, and cannot recommend enough, instruction at this level. Urmas will get you doing the right thing, in good time.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2014 - 05:33am PT
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"Telemark skiing is not going away"[Click to View YouTube Video]
Good to hear that Urmas.
Edit; I Completely agree ,kunlun,cheers.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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My ski came off on a steep traverse over a 400' cliff when I heard my friend, Hansi,ask
"What did the tele skier say when he ran out of weed?"
"What?"
"These bindings suck."
Timing is everything.
I'm a lifer on hippy sticks but I generally recommend others against it.
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perswig
climber
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"What did the tele skier say when he ran out of weed?"
"What?"
"These bindings suck."
Ha!
Thanks, Wilbeer, for a good thread.
Our snow so far has been ephemeral as usual and I finally replaced my gear this year, so I appreciate any stoke while patiently waiting...
Dale
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2014 - 01:46pm PT
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Ephemeral indeed perswig.
We have had close to 100 inches of snow in WNY this fall.
I do not think it lasted on the ground a week.
After lots of cycling,a good bit of climbing and some paddling,this looks like a powder day.
So ,what to do?Get out the Marquette BC skis.[Click to View YouTube Video]
Do Telemarkers run out of weed?....LOL.
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Fun stuff there Wilbeer!
Good companions and some good music on the video.
Who did that version of 'New Speedway Boogie'?
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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I think your dawgs think your crazy;)
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2014 - 05:36pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
That ski hill is in Naples ,NY,That band is from there.
Great Band.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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I don't think any major ski manufacturer has been making tele specific skis since K2 killed their telemark line and Karhu went kaput. Both those were probably 5 years ago. You don't need a specific ski to make telemark turns although something with a bit of give is nice.
Really, in my mind, the best tele skiers can rip on old gear. Making tele turns on plastic boots, shaped skis, burly bindings takes about 1/20th the skill of linking them with a floppy leather boot, 3 pin binding and E99s.
I linked 2 on my skate skis once (on perfect, new corduroy) and considered that an achievement.
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telemon01
Trad climber
Montana
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Look at all the love you are getting Wilbeer. People do care if you tele, and that is awesome. I was a tele skier for 25 years, learned in the Adirondacks, perfected my skills in Summit County, Colorado, and happily dropped a knee throughout North and South America.
I switched to AT when I found myself parallel skiing on my tele's to save energy, (i.e. getting older). Not wanting to sit back in my stance, I decided to lock in for the downhill.
I always loved the mobility of tele gear, and appreciated lighter gear. AT gear has come so far with carbon boots, fat skis and tech bindings, it just made sense to switch. And I still take pride in owning a quiver of one (part of the simplicity philosophy which led me to Nordic skiing in the first place). I sold all my tele gear and now I only free my heels for the uphill.
I've seen the full evolution and it's all good!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2014 - 05:48pm PT
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Yes it is Telemon.
Yes,Telemon,I am one of those eastern knucklehead skiers that just thrives in the sport.Like you ,I love the Dacks,Colorado,Montana and just about all things in the mountains.
It is ,All Good!
Bergbryce,I Concur,I still ski the old gear,especially in the fall.[soft ,thin snow]
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Mooseslobber...I suppose E on your fuel gauge stands for xxcellent...?
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2014 - 06:01pm PT
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"sounds like being "high" can enhance your experience, no matter what you do."
Why,yes,I agree......lol.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2014 - 04:39am PT
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Great looking stuff up there NWO.
The skier in the middle is a Tele skier.
Maybe it is stupid.
But just remember
LOL.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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My Girlfriend ?
I have always hoped she would find a nice guy
she was great and the best in bed if you liked it wet
but for tele you must have iron knees
infact you like the turns? think of the strain
back to bed with a wet old friend ...ice pack
that is what led her astray that wet cold bag
and my inability to kneel.
Think of the sexual limitations
nobody cares if you tele
don't tell E any one
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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wilbeer, would you please shorten those poles and keep your hands down....you are so backcountry!!! ;^)
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2014 - 05:39am PT
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Yes ,I am.
If I had the long lines you all ski,I would.Here it is a lot of yoyoing:)
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Mostly tele and some AT turns, evidence of a skiers passage:
Father of the turn, all hail the skin track:
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Sure
Alpine skiing is easier than Tele
And Aid Climbing is easier than Free Climbing.
It ain't about easy.
It's about freedom.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2014 - 08:24am PT
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Thanks All,This is getting us ready!
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enjoimx
Trad climber
SLO
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Hey all!
I am in the market for my first pair of Tele boots. Just got my first pair of skis and voile 3-pin bindings. Really psyched learn how to ski.
Does anyone know or have a lead on a relatively good deal for a pair of tele boots? I've been looking at all the sales, discount websites, even using my pro deals and can't find anything in my size (10.5 street shoe, 28.5 euro) under around $400. I really was hoping to spend $300 max for a solid pair of used tele boots. They don't have to be the newest or best, this is my first pair after all.
Any tips would be thankful!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Depending on where you live craigslist could be a good choice. Especially if you live near someplace like Denver, SLC or Tahoe. Around here (reno/tahoe) you can get some amazing deals on very good used ski equipment. Avoid e-bay for boots as you HAVE to try them on for fit before buying.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Sierra Trading Post had an insane amount of AT/tele boots in all sizes marked way down earlier this week. Like modern boots under $200 new.
Props to attempting to learn on 3 pins. Honestly, if you went with something a bit more modern (plastic boots + heavier bindings, like an O3 from BD or my personal favorite Voiles Switchback) in terms of a binding the learning curve would be less steep and you'd probably be having fun quicker.
The used gear shop in Bishop (Mammoth Mounteering(?) consignment shop has a ridiculous amount of used tele boots. They have been asking way too much for used tele boots for going on 3 or 4 years, so they sit and gather dust. Maybe they have started accepting reasonable offers on them? Worth trying if you're in the area.
I would get an account at Backcountry Talk and ask over there.
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enjoimx
Trad climber
SLO
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Thanks for the tips all. I'll try sierra trading post. I was in mammoth mountaineering in bishop about a month ago but at he time was way too confused about what I needed for my first ski setup. The binding options were really confusing me at first. I'm doing 3-pin with plastic boots because I will be doing a lot of cross country tours but want the option to go off trail and down moderate hills. I bought Rossignol BC 110 as my first ski, and they seem pretty cool: not too skinny and metal edges. Waxless too.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2014 - 11:20am PT
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enjoimx,I pretty much prefer 3 pin bindings and waxless skis.
We have some long approaches over here.
I ski Scarpa t2's and t4's and sometimes the Asolos.
Still run these
3 pins :)
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enjoimx
Trad climber
SLO
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Thanks Willbeer! Good to hear. There is a great deal on the Scarpa T-race at sierratradingpost. Do you think the T-race would be a bad idea for a first boot? Ie too stiff??mthe T1 and T2 are out of my size.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2014 - 11:41am PT
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That is a lot of boot.
I have found the t2 to be the best all rounder.
Hear some others opinions as well.
Have Fun.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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That's not a bad learning setup (Rossi BC + 2 or 3 buckle plastic boot). You can cover ground (somewhat) plus make some turns. There are tradeoffs with a wide waxless setup, like loss of glide and they aren't for aggressive lines, but they do well in-between those two extremes.
You'll want a lighter plastic boot for that setup. Place comfort over power. Most people compare "burliness" of tele boots by number of buckles. A 2 buckle boot is lighter, more suited to "touring" or covering miles in comfort. Whereas a 4 or 5 buckle boot is meant to cinch down tight, provide lots of power transfer from body to skis for more aggressive lines. For you, I'd look for a 2, or a light 3 buckle boot. The Mammoth store has lots of those as I recall, but asking an astronomical amount for a used 2 and 3 buckle tele boots.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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You do not want a T race, those are on the heavy, burly end of the spectrum. You want the other end of the plastic boot spectrum. Look at buckle count.
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enjoimx
Trad climber
SLO
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Thanks bergbryce. Good information here.
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steve shea
climber
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I swore to myself I would not do this, but here goes.
Those tracks above are on terrain flat as a pancake or those who left them were really slow. How do I know? Really shallow radius turns. No completion of the turn across the fall line to control speed. Of course someone on alpine gear who can buy a turn would not even bother with that boulevard or they would straight line it.
I used to tele, use rotary phones and protect with chromoly. So what. It is an antique technique best done on antique gear for full value. Tele is fun if done, as said upthread, on old stuff. Norrona boots, Madshus classic skis and Kloa bindings.
Anyone who has come up through the ranks knows to be successful in any ski discipline, you must know how to stand on your skis. This offers the most efficient body position, stacking the bones, and a forward, take it down the hill attitude which pressures the tips of the skis. Only a fixed heel transfers optimal energy to the ski tip by pressuring the tongue of the boot. With your heel flopping around you are leaving loads of power on the table. If the ski has no sidecut it does not matter. But most skis do. It is that relationship of the with of the tip, waist and tail that creates the arc. And it all starts by pressuring the tip, rolling on edge and voila! You are turning.
Maybe tele skiers don't care about that. Fine. It is all good as they say. But having tele'd for a long time and being a life long alpine skier as well, I do not understand why some think tele is somehow more sporting. Alpine skiing as a sport to master, all snow all terrain at speed, is supremely more difficult. With tele you can mail it in skidding and one leg squatting your way down the hill. A really inelegant and inefficient turn. Tele while fun is just a day off from alpine. A humorous curiosity. A diversion and worth doing for that alone. But really after unlocking the power of an alpine boot and truly understanding how the system works, tele is a buzz kill for me. Basically you suffer with every turn as you skid around, delusional, thinking you are doing something akin to soloing Cholatse in winter.
Do you know that many expert skiers in the competition side of any discipline are ex alpine ski racers. They learned how to stand on their skis at a young age. The best skiers I know personally here in Jackson Hole have one thing in common, they were all good alpine skiers at one point. Tele, rando, alpine big mt, even some of the best all around snowboard riders have an alpine background. It is all fun and fun is in the eye of the beholder but technically speaking tele is a dumpster fire compared to ripping arcs wall to wall on a well honed alpine setup. My .02.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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I got into tele because shaped skis took all the skill out of alpining. Skiing at the resort had become boring. Having a half functioning binding and making going down the hill more inefficient seemed like a good way to make skiing interesting again. I was right. Not to mention back then it was really the primary method for touring in the bc.
In hindisght, the day I bought some modern shaped skis in favor of my Olin Mark IVs was a sad one.
As everyone else has mentioned, arguing about which is better is stupid when the end goal is always the same, to have fun sliding on snow.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Hehe.... you pretty much covered it Steve S
But who gives a f*#k really... do what ya like
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steve shea
climber
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Berg, I get your drift. But If you think you mastered alpine because you bought shaped skis you missed the bus some where. Seriously you should take another look. Join an alpine master's race program, learn how to really ski. Then transfer your new found skills to your plank of choice. You will be amazed. Those early shaped skis would tie your legs in knots. Go demo something in the 20m radius range, 85 to 100 underfoot. Early shaped skis were closer to modern slalom skis. 12m or even less. I agree, they sucked. But to say the challenge is gone, is well, just not so. But to each his own.
For full disclosure I have been an alpine ski coach, World Cup Race Technician, Rossignol Race Dept. Rep, Rossi and Sun Valley Ski Tools Rep, and Shred And Slytech rep. Perhaps I am biased. Not saying one is better. But most people give up on alpine thinking they have it figured out or just plateau at a comfortable level. Man there is so much more. If you want the challenge of mastering in and out arcs at 40mph in total control. the cool thing is that the modern technique does not change from snow condition to snow condition. The tool does. That allows consistent body position.
My big challenge now is to become proficient on skate skis. At times I can fly and at others I'm like a dog on ice. But then again "It is a poor workman who blames his tools" Have fun this winter. The tram here in JH opened today, skiing is awesome for this early
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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One thing I never understood, so I've never done it this way and that is...
Skiing the fall line. Sure, I do it to obtain speed, but it sure is tough to stick to just the fall line. I mean, there are usually so many fun hits and whatnot, why would you not hit it?? I grew up surfing and skating, so I naturally snowboarded and looked at the snowy slope like a wave or a bowl.
When I started 'boarding, I would catch crap from skiers for mucking up the mountain and not preserving the snow, etc. One of the elements of t-mark I love the most was the easy ability I had to traverse or skate(pre-corn spring mornings) to hit zones if I found myself away from them or on some broad wide open featureless slope. I know hella folk that love the perfect S's all the way down the run, staying purely on the fall line and that is great for them, YeeHaw! It just seems so limiting to me when one has hits-galore couple hundred to the left or right of the fall line.. Although maybe to some it is about balancing that line and for others, they are just lines to cross
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steve shea
climber
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Wait a minute, skiing riding etc. is tool to snow contact. Anything else is just a circus act with a plank on. Air time, ho hum. Hits? What is that? I thought we were talking glise here. Park and pipe in the Mts is cool but remember skiing riding is ski to snow contact, airtime is something else. If you need transportation laterally across the hill to get to hits(?) then a loose heel probably is good.
Remember Comici? I think it was Comici. You know, my route will follow a drop of water or something to that effect. Direct. That be a fall line. Fall line is good, fall line is fast!
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Steve, I absolutely appreciate and believe your perspective. But your skills and knowledge are way above and beyond 99.9% of most skiers abilities and certainly mine. I don't have much interest in racing on a prepared course. I just wanna make turns in soft snow. I like to milk my hard-earned vert, tele allows this. I don't care much for chairlifts, lines or prepared snow. I'll take one lap of 2,000' of untracked to any "good" day at a resort. I think this adds to my draw of this peculiar turn.
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steve shea
climber
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Ok Berg. But if you get out to Jackson look me up and we'll make a few turns. I do still tele...
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Jackson is on my short list. I'll get there some day, hopefully sooner rather than later!
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Tele
alpine
corn snow
fall lines
park
etc...
Having tried everything, you don't know what you're missing until you've floated through powder on a snowboard.
Old troll, I know, but so true :)
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Remember Comici? I think it was Comici. You know, my route will follow a drop of water or something to that effect. Direct. That be a fall line. Fall line is good, fall line is fast!
I agree it is the fastest way down. I remember a reference from a friend that was teaching me to ski; it was like the water line you mention above. By hits I meant basically anything different from a smooth fall line: lip, chicane, berm, wave, stump, etc.. I wasn't necessarily talking about air(especially for me! especially b/c I didn't even think about it till you brought it up). I am not talking about doing tricks or park-ee style skiing skiing. I am just talking about skiing a face in a creative way that makes you say YeeHaw!! I know folks love the fall line and that is great. I know what it is for me and what makes my Haw equal my Yee is working the features. To me, it really opens up the potential number of lines on just about any face. The beauty of skiing..
Edit:
I here you crab. Although, I have never alpine skied so I can't make a comment via experience.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2014 - 03:04pm PT
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Steve ,you have my total respect.
I ski with Alpine racers now and then,inbounds ,on boiler plate,at places like Whiteface.On these
Yeah,they beat me down the mountain,but ,there is no waiting for me,to this day.
That said ,I do not race.
I relish in the climb,the transitions,the descent.
Could care less about piste,but ,ride it now and then.
Like your area up there,have skied Buck Mt.,Static Peak,turned back on Mt.Moran.I have even skied Slide Mt. in the Gros Ventre's,
The Dinwoody Glaciers,never been to the resort.
Glisse is for everyone that wants it.
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steve shea
climber
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Wilbeer, next time you are out here we'll go hiking. I know of some great skiing on Togwotee Pass with the best view of the Teton's. I once skied Buck on Fischer Europas and PINS!!! I thought I had one foot in the grave. Never again! Alpine gear from then on in the Tetons, on the big peaks at least.
When I finally moved back to the states from Chamonix, JH was the only hill that came close to the big sustained steep vertical in France. On some days you really need your sh#t in a pile to get down in style. Over 4K vertical to the parking lot and you are liable to start in a whiteout on sastrugi to windslab to pow to crud to sacrete by the time you bottom out. all on one run. Most of the mt is NOT groomed. Skiing sauvage as they say in France. Really good challenging conditions. Keeps you honest just like that eastern boiler plate. I grew up skiing Cannon mt in Franconia, NH. I know how it is. Funny out here what people think is ice is a nice packed powder day in the NE. Ice is when you can see the flowers down below. NE skiers know what I mean.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2014 - 04:09pm PT
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Very cool ,Steve,I will take you up on that .
Love the area,I mean how could you not.
Edit: I am not saying I had an easy time on those aspects,Those trips brought out the truest of grit that I had.Great experience.Actually really miss it.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2014 - 05:55pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
Got me thinking of it all,the vid is not mine,we did not have snowmobiles,we did not summit,we hardly got any turns .
We got to the base of the real climb.
A snowboarder[not with us] had a bad time of it ,had a good size slough literally blast him into a BIG ROCK PILE,right in front of myself,Thom and Phred.
All three first responders ,we worked up the slope[400ft] and helped and accessed.
He was concussed and had broken his arm,maybe leg.
It took us and his buddy the rest of the day to get out.
We ended up doing the same thing as the folks in the video did at the end .
Other than that ,It was the same ...........LOL. Really.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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^^^great video!!! The commentary is so funny and typical, "oh yea. keep going, yeeeehaaa!!!" Thanks Wilbeer for posting, the Teton's are so incredible. Truly an epicenter of skiing in NA. Steve S. you're a blessed skier to live in such a place. Happy and safe trails everyone this winter, enjoy.
Charlie D.
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east side underground
climber
Hilton crk,ca
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France rules...... the sierra can't really compete with the alps but here's our own little slice of cham on the eastside...
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2014 - 08:41am PT
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I am not comparing disciplines ,but,you definitely are welcome to.
Like what has been said here.
It is 40 and raining here today.
Man,Daydreaming of the Tetons .Hear you Charlie.
DMT ,someone stole that pebble from me almost the exact same way.Still ski with him.....lol.I thought the Asolo Summit Doubles were the thing .
Sempervirens mentioned the Andrew McLean article on AT vs Tele,I remember it was somewhat harsh,but funny.Some quotes that have fueled this thread;http://unofficialnetworks.com/2011/11/telemarking-huh
Like I have said,Whatever blows your hair back.
Hoping it is going to be a nor'easter.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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I wouldnt have a problem with tele skiers if they would simply admit the sh#t sucks but they like it anyway.
Instead many try to blow smoke up my ass in an effort to somehow convince me its as good or superior to better equipment. Seriously?! Hell even split boards are a better system.
I did try it once and I could do it decently but it was like climbing in Robbins boots.. at best. I did get a few turns in that felt uniquely satisfying and "swooshy" but I have zero desire to do it again
I used to care for some unknown reason but now it's just ...whatever. I actually do appreciate the enthusiasm for the arena that we share.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2014 - 08:55am PT
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Yes,the stuff sucks.
But I care anyway...lol.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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there have been many many times when the ski area slopes in VT were grade 1 ice climbs and i have seen a fair bit of lift serviced grade 2 ice ;)
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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They also race VW Bugs but they're not a real threat to Mercedes, Williams, and McLaren.
signed,
Dunboth
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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I came to realize I only liked to tele in powder. Then its magic. The rest of the time sorta sucked.
Well that helps avoid wasting much time skiing...
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HermitMaster
Social climber
my abode
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I came to realize I only liked to tele in powder. Then its magic. The rest of the time sorta sucked.
You should try Corn ....
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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I care damnit.....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Do you also drive a Bug? ;-)
As long as yer happy.
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raymond phule
climber
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got into tele because shaped skis took all the skill out of alpining. Skiing at the resort had become boring. Having a half functioning binding and making going down the hill more inefficient seemed like a good way to make skiing interesting again. I was right.
I think the complete opposite. The shaped skis resulted in the possibility for much more interesting skiing in all kind of conditions at the resort and I believe that the wide of piste skis did the same in the mountains.
The main problem I see with tele is that it works ok and is fun in very good conditions, powder och easy packed snow, but is a definitive drawback (or you need to be very very good at it) in a lot of conditions, ice, heavy snow, powder with harder snow at the top (whatever it is called), changing conditions between hard and soft etc.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2014 - 06:14am PT
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Thank You ,Karen.
Great form there in that picture,really,carrying the case of beer straight down the fall line.
Style in pow.
Raymond,whilst I agree Tele skiing can be tough in adverse conditions,I am a disciple of Paul Parker who has said"There is no such thing as bad snow ,only bad skiers"
There are an awful lot of telemark skiers that have lived this philosophy.Skiing every type of snow there is.
Steve Shea mentioned that earlier about skiing different conditions all within one run. I have never seen that much out west,but ,man,I have seen a ton of it back east here.
http://www.descender.com/issue3/parker.html
Damn,where is the snow?Looks like Shea and Cragar are in some.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2014 - 06:19am PT
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See the bloke on the left ,a BC skier.
The guy on the right ,not so much,but he does have proper frontcountry form,aye?
LOL....
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Ha!!! Wilbeer those stabs may knock your teeth out, be careful!!! Such great fun we have as skiers!!!
I was a long time tele skier and true believer. I started out in the late 70's with Europa 99's and high leather boots and took advantage of all the advancements in gear through the years. I spent most of my time in the backcountry but found as the equipment improved I spent more and more time at the resort.
About 4 years ago I went on a long ski tour in the southern Sierra and developed a nasty cist on my ankle due to my ill fitting Garmount boots. After surgery I was in the market for new boots and made the decision to get AT gear. I must admit it was partly due to peer pressure having so many of my old smelly tele hippy friends going to AT gear. I took the plunge and I totally dig it.
I unlike some of the great tele skiers I know had a deep knee bend. My oldest son who is an awesome skier (skied the Grand on tele gear) has a higher stance and unless you look closely he appears to be on alpine gear. I found myself getting worn out even on powder days at the resort by mid afternoon. Now I can do full credit days back to back and I moving toward my mid 60's.
There's only so many turns you will do in your life, my plan is to do them as long as I possibly can. AT gear for at least me has given my legs and knees some more time, just wish there was some magic for the rest of my parts.
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B^) nice turns eh Steve S.?
Cheers,
Charlie D.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2014 - 07:22am PT
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Well said,Charlie.
But,Teeth,Left 1/2 of em' in Canada.[sad hockey joke here.....lol]
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steve shea
climber
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Charlie, I agree on the stiff more sensitive gear adding longevity to your skiing. With my alpine set up I can rest on the handle bars so to speak. 150, plug boots. I recently had a knee replacement and tried 130, too soft, I had to work more using the muscle groups from my low back to my feet bringing on fatigue I don't normally feel. So back to my 150's no problem. Interesting huh? Sort of Counter intuitive, one would think the cusher boot at first would be easier on the body. Not so for me.
Its a mechanical advantage. You use much less knee in upright stance (the boot)in a stiff boot. And you need much more pressure and knee with soft boot resulting in more work. That's why most modern alpine boots do NOT have much ramp angle. (forward attitude).
Remember when you were a little kid and your Dad would block your bike pedals. If you were too small you were at full dorsiflexion? hardly able to reach the pedal on a down stroke. The block filled the space giving a mechanical advantage. Same with an upright stiff boot.
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raymond phule
climber
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Raymond,whilst I agree Tele skiing can be tough in adverse conditions,I am a disciple of Paul Parker who has said"There is no such thing as bad snow ,only bad skiers"
There are an awful lot of telemark skiers that have lived this philosophy.Skiing every type of snow there is.
Yes, it is of course possibly to do that if you are good enough but I prefer the gear that give me (in some conditions) a huge advantage. I prefer to make nice carving turns instead of trying to just get down on some descent.
I really don't see the point with using more difficult gear when the gear don't have any advantages. I just don't think that the tele turn is better or cooler or whatever that it is worth the effort to use teleskis.
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sempervirens
climber
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I find it difficult to do parallel turns on my tele gear (Black Diamond Push boots with Work Stynx). It seems like I can't lean forward enough to weight the ski tips. If I lean forward I get off balance because of the free heel. If I don't lean forward then I'm skiing in the back seat.
Telemarking is harder on the knees than alpine. Telemarking is fun as hell. I think that is its only advantage.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Just like alpining, you gotta learn to deal with less than perfect snow with a free heel.
My knees hurt a lot worse after a day of alpining. Tele places strain on the biggest muscles in your bodies (quads, hamstrings) instead of directly on your knees. This was a surprising finding for me and ymmv.
This discussion will be somewhat moot next season. There is talk/minor rumblings of some new hybrid bindings are set to hit the market. Using the new tech toe compatible tele boots, they come with a heel locking option. So if you get caught having to navigate the last 800' of re-frozen mank/breakable crust/whatever, you will be able to lock down the heel, and then release it so you can stride across the flat spot before the car. I will be adapting and I will thankfully draw from the best of both worlds on the same lap.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Timid on Roundtop near Carson Pass
Marty cruising corn on Elephants Back
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enjoimx
Trad climber
SLO
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Wilbeer, I ended up buying the Scarpa T4 after a lot of deliberation and your comments helped. They were a good deal on outdoorprolink. I'll take a pic of my whole setup once they arrive. Now we just need snow on the west coast. I live in Yosemite, no snow here yet, well Clouds rest and I'm sure Tuolumne has a tiny bit.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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T4 is a great choice!!! Will match those skis and bindings well.
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Mark
climber
bend, oregon
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Wilbeer,
Wondering if that pic you posted of Canadice Hill is in the Finger Lakes region near Canadice Lake?
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2014 - 02:13pm PT
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Mark,you bet.That is Canadice Hill @ Harriet Hollister Spencer State Recreation Area.
Been maintaining glades there for 25 years.
Great skiing of all types nordic,Gets Lake effect from Lake Erie.
Just SE of Canadice Lake.My friend Ian lives right at the bottom of a nice 13-1400 ft. vertical drop just south of Honeoye Lake.
Edit;Mark,that was a great time lapse of the Dacks you made!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2014 - 03:13pm PT
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Just missed one of the true gods of the Tele,
Bill Kirchen played a great room friday night in Rochester.[Click to View YouTube Video]
Enjoimx,you will dig the T4's.I do.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Earning those turns is an art too, I sure appreciate a well done skin track and listening to the perfect music on my iPod:
Breathe, breathe in the air
Don't be afraid to care
Leave but don't leave me
Look around and choose your own ground
For long you live and high you fly
And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
And all you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be
Run, rabbit, run
Dig that hole, forget the sun,
And when at last the work is done
Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one
For long you live and high you fly
But only if you ride the tide
And balanced on the biggest wave
You race toward an early grave.
Got to love PF for those long days in the trench.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Love 🙌 this thread.
Wonderful pics and stories. Getting me stoked!!
Susan
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2014 - 05:27am PT
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Frozen Corn,not the easiest to ski,but ,I would take it right now.[Click to View YouTube Video]
It will be here soon ,SC.Thank You.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2014 - 06:29am PT
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Phred ,who lurks here,approves.
He cares if you Tele.
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perswig
climber
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Based on the next storm track, you're living right, Wilbeer.
Enjoy!
Dale
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Today on US 50:
Ha! As the sign says PLAN YOUR TRAVEL !!! Looks like the Sierra is about to get a much needed storm, just hope it's colder.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Here's a cool tele video from BITD. Mt. Washington and deep spring conditions:
http://vimeo.com/113924299
edit - I mostly ski tech bindings these days in the backcountry - super lightweight, they actually release - so good for avalanche safety, plus long stride with boots like the TLT 5 or 6. TLTs have so much range of motion in tour mode, that some people even drive with them - guide or industry related, NOT on the freeway. Plus they are solid mountaineering boots. Bellows and duckbills suck with crampons.
I still have fun with tele, but plastic tele boots are so heavy, they're better for resort skiing than touring and climbing :-)
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John M
climber
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This is my favorite argument on the Taco. The more you argue.. the better the pics get. Please keep arguing.. hahaha.. love it.
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sempervirens
climber
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This is a great thread for ski stoke. Storm coming here in N. Cal! Please!
In other thoughts: dang-it-all Wilbeer, backcountry or not, will you please get those hands down. I can't stand it.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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^^^Ha! Hands down or up wilbeer you're welcomed to join our posse if you should find yourself some winter in the Trench of Highway 50 on a hunch you would assimilate well.
Great thread for as my wife calls it "the season of mono-thought". Can't believe I'm leaving CA this weekend, poor timing but at least I'm headed to Bozeman, MT with hopes of seeing the Blue Light flash on the Baxter.
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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east side underground
climber
Hilton crk,ca
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hey wilbeer , were i come from we call those "hills"......heh heh heh
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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^wow, east side where is that?
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east side underground
climber
Hilton crk,ca
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my backyard.......heh heh heh edit: that is a shot of the "vagina chute" however the pc guide book authors changed the name to the " wine glass". Mt. Morgan in the back.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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ESU, I must admit you do have an impressive backyard:
Perhaps we can share at some point some stashes if you're not too young, cocky or strong to hang with old men, here's our backyard plunge:
I am so ready to do some skiing, just got back from a business gig in Utah and spent a day at Alta and skied Snowbird for the first time, talk about awesome terrain, those Wasatch Mountains are great!!!
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east side underground
climber
Hilton crk,ca
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hey charlie, more than happy to share stashes as long as you don't take my line.....
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WyoRockMan
climber
Flank of the Big Horns
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She loved the tele:
Bridger stoke:
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2014 - 08:51am PT
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ESU ,that is impressive and I realize those are just hills ,but,It is not Ohio.lolI think you folks are finally smelling what I am stepping in...cheers. Lol. Great shots wyo,Tork
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Mark
climber
bend, oregon
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Thanks Wilbeer! Super psyched to hear that you are managing those glades and keeping them skiable year to year. Good on ya!
In anticipation of this week's storm i'd like to share this time-lapse i shot at Whiteface Mountain in 2013. I spent a dozen nights on the summit waiting for clear skies. What a place.
https://vimeo.com/63918070
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2014 - 09:25am PT
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Mark that is superb,ski with you soon,wilbeer
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perswig
climber
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Bravo, Mark! That was beyond wicked-good...
Dale
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2014 - 12:38pm PT
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Great video Charlie......Yes they do.
I am going to get out there[Cali],I have a lot of turns in front of me yet.
Hell,I may even TRY to AT .....LOL.
Still have to learn how to Tele yet.
haha.
perswig,that purple blob on the left is right where I am.
I HOPE.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2014 - 02:53pm PT
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Like the dialogue........:)
Stones.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Dec 10, 2014 - 05:02am PT
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Effin Nuts!
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perswig
climber
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Dec 10, 2014 - 06:04am PT
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Woulda called that Fat Man's Misery.
Or Pachinko Machine.
Dale
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Dec 10, 2014 - 09:00am PT
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[photoid=390050]
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doughnutnational
Gym climber
its nice here in the spring
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Dec 10, 2014 - 09:05am PT
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My daughter cares that I tele, she thinks I might be able to almost keep up if I'd just "lock em down clown".
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Dec 10, 2014 - 09:19am PT
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Big problem in that photo^^^^^^^!!!!!! ;)
Susan
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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Dec 10, 2014 - 09:38am PT
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Nice Flip Flop!
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Dec 10, 2014 - 10:26am PT
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Since this has become a general ski stoke thread, here is the most creative ski segment probably ever. Unfortunately one of the skiers, JP Auclair, was lost in an avalanche this fall in South America.
If you have not watched this segment from the movie All I Can (2010 ?), you owe it to yourself. This is not your typical steep and deep segment.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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Dec 10, 2014 - 10:35am PT
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I care that this gal teles
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Dec 10, 2014 - 11:48am PT
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Use to tele and yea no one cared, sure dug getting my face in it:
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Dec 10, 2014 - 12:12pm PT
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^^^^^really excellent.
I'd never seen it before. Everyman's skiing adventure.
Really captured what those grey slushy days can be like.
Awesome!!!
😂
Susan
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sempervirens
climber
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Dec 10, 2014 - 12:53pm PT
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bergbryce,
That video just made me 5 minutes late for a meeting-and it's about the 10th time I've seen it. It was worth it! thanks for posting.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Dec 10, 2014 - 01:35pm PT
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Dude, EVERYBODY cares if you Tele...because Strats are played out.
Do you Tele? I Tele:
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Roxy
Trad climber
CA Central Coast
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Dec 10, 2014 - 01:54pm PT
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bergbryce that was an awesome clip indeed!!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2014 - 02:16pm PT
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Always liked that video,bergbryce.It is a masterpiece.
Tork ,you are caring,I would to......great pictures.
6-8 inches on the ground and it is really coming.
Looks as though the material needed for tomorrows work will not make it in time ,that is a shame.[Click to View YouTube Video]
Flip flop,that second pic is awesome,ripping the crust...damn.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2014 - 04:26pm PT
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Still thinking of these
and this[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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Dec 11, 2014 - 09:04am PT
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Great Vid!
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Dec 11, 2014 - 09:29am PT
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The Ghoulwe Mountaineering Club's god of snow, Ningue. His roost is above Echo Lakes in the Tree's of Ningue along the Ralston Ridge. He is why we can ride the magic carpet doing what we do:
Praise Ningue!!!!!!!
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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Dec 11, 2014 - 09:38am PT
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Nice!
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Dec 11, 2014 - 11:46am PT
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Praise Ningue!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2014 - 08:28am PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
I will try to tele in any snow.6 miles of yoyoing is just what was needed.
Do we ever have enough snow?
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Dec 12, 2014 - 09:12am PT
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Ningue, I had no idea. We may have been visited by Ningue while camped at Ralston Lake. We were traversing the Desolation Wilderness when a storm sent us hustling for Echo Lakes. The storm broke as we came to the face of Ralston. There is a world class tree at the base that kept us sheltered while we lapped Ralston ripping hot powder on cool fungus.
It was probably Ningue that guided and protected our shenanigans. The best of times.
Thanks for the stokes folks.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Dec 12, 2014 - 09:25am PT
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Flip Flop, Ningue works in mysterious ways. His worship may not make it snow but it is the only chance we have as skiers, Praise Ningue!!!!
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Dec 12, 2014 - 09:28am PT
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Praise Ningue
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 15, 2014 - 01:01pm PT
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See,I told you...................LOL.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2014 - 05:01am PT
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Happy Holidays and Glisse.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Dec 23, 2014 - 05:19am PT
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Back at ya!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Dec 23, 2014 - 07:02am PT
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WIlbeer this is such a great thread, thanks for making it happen..even if you are a telemarker ;-)
Berg , thanks for sharing that super creative clip..btw the backflip at 2:58 is pretty badass when you notice the telephone/power lines nearby.
R.I.P. Auclair
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enjoimx
Trad climber
SLO
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Dec 24, 2014 - 05:09pm PT
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Anyone have any used Telemark boots, size 10.5 they need or want to sell? Thats a 28.5 mondo size. I would really appreciate any leads. I am looking to spend around $150-$175 for a decent pair.
Thanks
Rob (PM me if you want)
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Dec 25, 2014 - 05:41am PT
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Willbeer. Hows your snorkel and flippers working out..... I am in a deep depression here as the rain fog and warm wind steal the snow and ice......
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2014 - 06:13am PT
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This is my local ski hill today.They depend on real snow .
Nothing in the bc either.By this time I can find something around to ski.Or even the gullies would be frozen enough to TR.ALL sedimentary rock around here,the only time of year you can climb anything is when there is some solid ice,otherwise it is a 3-5 hour trip,to the dacks.
I doubt there is much there either,sad....
60F here yesterday.Not a chance.
So I hear you ,Tradman.
But ,Hey, Merry Christmas,It will come soon!
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Dec 25, 2014 - 06:24am PT
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Been getting some, at an ole abandoned ski area in the Catskills the last two w/es. With these temps, won't last.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2014 - 06:28am PT
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John Duffield,I love skiing Bearpen Hollow,what a great old ski area.
Glad to know others get after that place.
Cheers ,good sir.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2014 - 07:08am PT
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Looks as if we should be praising Ningue ourselves!
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east side underground
climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Dec 25, 2014 - 09:31am PT
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well dingus we didn't gets sh#t for snow here on the eastside.....the ski gods are surfing right now
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Dec 25, 2014 - 03:19pm PT
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I did a driveby of Lake willoughby this afternoon. Complete and Total Thermo Nuclear devastation... :(
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sempervirens
climber
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Dec 25, 2014 - 07:07pm PT
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There was 3-5" of new at Squaw Valley this morning. Cold. Snowing off and on throughout the day. Damn good, considering... The lower mountain is still mostly bare. They opened one run to the base but it looked bad.
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Fish Boy
Social climber
Squeamish
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Dec 25, 2014 - 09:10pm PT
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Sick, just saw this thread. I've never locked the heel and never will. Tele has gone from being the efficient way to get up and down a hill to being a way too heavy dangerous way to have fun. But once you become ok at it, why change? My NTN/megawatt setup weighs 3x a dynafiddle/wailer setup, but at least i have an excuse for sucking.
Not that anyone cares....
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Dec 25, 2014 - 10:06pm PT
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makes them tougher if you make them earn em when they are 13. Another 6 inches tonight gonna be great in the morning.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2014 - 05:12am PT
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Glad to see you folks are getting some!
In the meantime,enjoy this,I posted this on another thread,I know the skier is not telemarking ,but,he is earning his turns.
http://vimeo.com/111085476
Winter is scheduled to return over here by weeks end.Bring it.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 26, 2014 - 06:31am PT
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The Tele as a rhythm guitar,hard to dislike THE tone.[Click to View YouTube Video]
Distraction Needed.
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sempervirens
climber
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Dec 27, 2014 - 10:36am PT
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Here's a short, fun, must-read (IMO) for all telemarkers. I mentioned it a couple pages back and incorrectly attributed it to the well known back country skier, Andrew McLean, who is quoted in the article.
http://unofficialnetworks.com/2011/11/telemarking-huh
Last week I had a tele-binding malfunction (you'd think I'd have checked it and fixed it during the long autumn wait for snow...). Like a dope I didn't notice it until I was in line for first chair at Squaw Valley. So I went and demo'd some excellent, fat, rockered downhill skis (Brahma blizzards) with downhill boots and bindings. I have both downhill skied and tele skied for many seasons, but for whatever reason (make one up) I hadn't been on downhill skis for 15 years. I observed: it took several runs until I felt comfortable on these, they were noticeably heavier than my tele set-up; parallel turns were much easier; my legs lasted twice as long, and it was fun as hell.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Dec 27, 2014 - 03:59pm PT
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5 days ago winter was absolutly awesome! we had ice to climb and snow to ski. in fact everything was completly covered in fresh white. A winter wonderland. now it simply Sucks.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2014 - 07:11pm PT
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Man ,could I say a lot about your picture^^^^^^^,Tradman.
We all suffer from the same exact disease.
It will get better.
SKEEIN IS THE REASON FOR THE SEASON!
Truer words could not be said.
Thanks eKat!
Happy New Year to you all.
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enjoimx
Trad climber
SLO
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Dec 27, 2014 - 10:24pm PT
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First season on skis. Haven't locked my heel yet! First day ever on skis was skate skis! After a week, I made it out to Glacier Point ski hut! I'm pretty psyched right now living in Yosemite. First winter in the Sierra.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Dec 28, 2014 - 05:24am PT
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Have fun skatin'! I love turning my body inside out on those skinny nordy stix! Can't wait to get on my misery stix when I get home, we finally got the winter goods!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 5, 2015 - 07:20pm PT
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Just waiting........
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Enjoimx....cool tour our there to GP eh? A world class view at the end of a groomed trail, nice.
Wilbeer, you'll be amused to know I wish I had my old three pins on for our circumnavagation of our local ski hill. Such changeable conditions in the low tide that is the Tahoe Sierra made me long for better mountain tools on my feet. Josie dug it regardless.....
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 5, 2015 - 07:59pm PT
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We have a very anxious ski group over here Charlie.
Good to see you have some !
Enjoy.
I sure hope it is coming our way.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Everything is a sheet of ice here. If it's not groomed it's pretty much not skiiable....
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Everything is a sheet of ice here. If it's not groomed it's pretty much not skiiable....
This is Vermont? Great, I've already got 70% down on the condo in Stowe
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2015 - 04:12pm PT
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Brian Mohr,from AdventureSkier .com[Ember Photo] ,in Vermont,has said this today:
"There's some really sweet skiing out there in the lower elevation/lower angle untracked backcountry... Sunday's snow seems to have survived the warm and freezing rain/crust factor in many areas, leaving a nice 1-2" coat of sugary goodness to play with. Stay warm. And let it snow."
Not at all like over here,It is good mountain biking right now.
Duffield I would not worry,Stowe is known to groom among the best in the world.When weather gets locked up or we do not get any ,Stowe has always been a sturdy destination .
It is pricey ,but.....
Mike,He should be happy he is skiing!
I have never seen the lack of snow like this in New York[this time of year],at least they are making some.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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No doubt. It kind of deserves its own thread. I think it had almost 30,000 views as of yesterday. Bet he wasn't a tele-er.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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On page 1 ground_up said
Whatever tickles yer wiener . As a career alpine race coach I think
getting on tele gear is great for your skiing , period. YUP.
These days I mix Tele and "alpine" style depending on the terrain, snow conditions and just to mix it up.
Wahooooooo.
Now if the snow will just hang around long enough for me to get a day off!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Stowe has good coverage and a lot of terraine open i just would not expect and decent off piste skiing. The ice climbing In stowe right now is amazeing! this climb is 1/2 mile from the base lodge
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perswig
climber
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Jan 10, 2015 - 04:23am PT
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Re: mike m's Bridger link, this comment rocks:
Makes you pine for the sweet serenity of the backcountry, doesn’t it?
This brand of self-entitled, self-important screaming and yelling business seems to be getting more and more common. It usually cascades with cussing, then crescendos and peaks into “Do you know who I am?! Do you know how much I make?! I’m gonna have your job!”
Like the snowpack, these character flaws lie in superposition, layers piled one on top of the other. Clearly this guy’s issues stem from a weak layer going back to early season, Freudian, childhood experiences wherein throwing a tantrum resulted not in a whupping but in a foot or two of pow to smooth things over (way to go parental units- your offspring is full of basal facets and hollows ready to pop!)
Sadly, these instabilities have persisted through adulthood, weak layers further complicated by cross-loading of high income, perceived upward social mobility, relative anonymity, and rewards attached to bad behavior; The perfect recipe for a spazzalanche.
Hopefully the ticket window receptionist avoided a full burial of abuse and was properly rescued by her manager o/a support staff…
And hopefully the downhill slide in question hits rock bottom, then seeks the therapy he so clearly requires.
Oh, that or a lesson in reading at a 3rd grade level- The trail map seems pretty damn clear to me.
Nice shot, Trad!
Dale
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2015 - 04:41am PT
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"Spazzalanche"
LOL.
Tradman,just about every time I have been to Stowe,[And I have skied off every aspect of that mountain] I have seen climbers on that wall .
The way you get after it ,I do not doubt ,one of those times ,it was you!
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jan 10, 2015 - 05:11am PT
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While I have watched and shared the video,that, Perswig,.references above,
I equated the post's comments to the very superior web link immediately above, Gaphaw! Ha ha, the east cost skiing thread thing!!
Perswig,
Your statement also perfectly fits!! the the condition that the person or persons suffer from
at the east cost Vermont centric blog "Famous Blha blha Blha".
First the parents of these lucky SOBs spent years spoiling the brood with great experiences
at what once was an affordable family outing.Resort , lift assisted, whole mountain skiing.
Then when junior or some one got hurt they had their brother or sister, the lawyer, sue the Mountain.
The dollar reward was to scare the resort into compliance . . . that backfired!
The price of a lift ticket soared. Prices of all things on the resort hill doubled or more.
Then we all grew up and said phk this and jumped over a Gaurd rail to sample some steep free powder (do not shorten words like powder to a lazy azz non meaning three letter POW)
Enter the Internet age, the need to be Famous, there you go, ego driven content, corporate
support in trade for unreliable reviews of product,free advertising and that, so east cost denial of the facts, that every thing is bigger and better out west.
Yes especially the "back bush" ?. . .Back country, off the grid, hard to get to, powder skiing,"
(Call me a homophobe but "back bush pounding" is what anal sex is called)
"Schussing!", as they point out, if you were paying attention, is not a new word.
Their grandfather used it and they started The blog without using it.
Click the link it is very worth while, well written and so a great read.
Easily the best that the east cost has to offer, off the grid, is found farther north, but Vermont is very snowy.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2015 - 06:37am PT
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Not offended at all,Gnome.
I do not connect the two whatsoever.
People run blogs,they get compensation for that,[HERE].
I know folks in Saranac,who know STDie folks ,who know FIS and Ember,thats the way socialist BC skiers here in the east skate.
We all try not to buy lift tickets.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Jan 10, 2015 - 07:35am PT
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L0VE this thread.
Hey, I've got a beautiful pair of Scarpa Denali's size 9 for sale or trade.
Need something in a size 11 myself.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jan 10, 2015 - 01:48pm PT
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I love the East coast Back country Blog!
Thanx for including the second Trapp Dike thread !
I was lucky to survive Three cold winters in Saranac Lake, Back before I could afford Gortex.
Paul Smiths college was the crucible for lots of hard core skiing! & climbing!
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Jeff Gorris
climber
Not from, Portlandia
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Jan 10, 2015 - 01:55pm PT
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2015 - 06:47pm PT
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Thanks Jim ,some good stuff for sure!
And if you get tired of Teles,
there is always Jaguars.[Click to View YouTube Video]
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 10, 2015 - 08:58pm PT
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did 20k on my old Xc skies today trying to keep isa in sight on her skate skies...
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WyoRockMan
climber
Flank of the Big Horns
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Jan 12, 2015 - 01:40pm PT
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Took the new AT setup for it's maiden voyage yesterday. I doubt I'll ever tele again. NTTIAWWTM.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2015 - 04:34pm PT
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Wyo,glad to see your earning some.You are skiing.
Ever get up Cloud Peak or Mathers over in the Bighorns?
That is some BC skiing right there.Bringing back some memories ,you have to watch where the heck you are moving in those mountains ,Man ,some good stuff.
Like a real open Dacks.Lots of Ice.
[sorry for the happy hour dream]
Heading out in the morning,Hey ,we have close to 6 inches ,damn nice stuff........LOL.[Click to View YouTube Video]
I believe he is ATing.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2015 - 04:36pm PT
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3f.
I think that is where it is at.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 23, 2015 - 07:44am PT
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AT = after tele.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jan 23, 2015 - 07:59am PT
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Norm too funny..........AT=after tele.........amen!
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Jan 23, 2015 - 08:36am PT
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That Loar Whatsisname that plays with Sturgill Simpson is an absolute monster, but Sturgill's pretty crafty on a tele himself:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 23, 2015 - 03:30pm PT
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CharlieD I thought you were going to come ski with us.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2015 - 03:39pm PT
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Well,Norm,If Charlie does not ,I may,I will be in Colorado in a month and Wilson ,Wyoming is my favorite town out there!
I have no parents and I only buy NEW tele gear....lol[get it cheap]
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2015 - 04:24pm PT
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Mastery of...............the Tele.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Jan 23, 2015 - 05:06pm PT
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Steve Shea,
I'm going to give you a tele response to your points.
1. I enjoy not pressuring the front of my boot. The human stance is on the base of our feet. I would equate it to surfers choosing not to strap in. You could argue that the largest and gnarliest will be surfed with straps but I don't think that reflects the heart of surfing.
2. The knee issues and back strain that you complain about comes from alpine skiing. Anectotally, the local orthopedist's don't do much work on tele skiers.
3. That leads to your points on peak performance athletics. Great tele skiing is done with the legs bent very little. This allows the precision pressuring just at the moment needed while flying freely above the terrain. The Alpine performance comes at the price of never being in a natural position. Alpine skiing requires "the position" at all times.
When I alpine ski I feel like my ass is in the seat of a fighter jet. When I tele ski I feel like a laughing dancing wizard with jets beneath my feet.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2015 - 05:21pm PT
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Surfing.............to the last drop!
I could point them ,but .Why
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AKDOG
Mountain climber
Anchorage, AK
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Jan 23, 2015 - 05:46pm PT
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Our measly snow is being washed into the Pacific Ocean right now by a mighty rain.
Lean year up in AK this year too
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 24, 2015 - 05:08am PT
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 24, 2015 - 07:12am PT
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flip flop must have a different orthepedist.. seems like a lot of the older telle gang here have bionic knees.....
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Jan 24, 2015 - 08:21am PT
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I won't be held responsible for east coast ice bumps, ruts and nuts.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 25, 2015 - 05:47am PT
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steve shea
climber
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Jan 25, 2015 - 07:30am PT
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I just happened to tune in after many days and I see my name.
Flip Flop it is obvious to me that you do not know how to ski. If you did you would realize that proper alpine technique is fluid and incorporates movement throughout the turn. If when you have tried it you feel locked in, that's your problem and you need enlightenment. There is a 'rest' phase in a properly executed turn and people who really know how to ski know and use the stacking... But wait a minute , you do not know what I am talking about so I won't waste my breath. While you suffer with every bullshit tele turn, you can wonder what might have been if you ever had put the work in and figured out how to ski.
As I said way back in this thread, I think. What chaps me is tele skiers thinking they are doing something more sporting or pure or difficult. If you think it is so then that is a dead give away that you do not know how to ski. I run into tele skiers that exude that superiority, as though they just did the Eiger in winter, while alpine skiers are working on their tans.
This my experience. And by the way I have telemark skied extensively and still do but on days off or rest days. I use pins and my old stuff. Pretty fun. New tele equipment, stiffer boots, more positive purchase bindings and short shaped wide skis have made tele a walk in the park. Skate skiing, now that is a challenge.
So in addition to not knowing what you are talking about skiing is not surfing or gnarly. Also, anecdotally is spelled like this. Also I do not have sore knees or back. Must be someone else. Leg blasters man! I like to go into ski season fit so I get full value. And remember, no one cares if you tele.
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steve shea
climber
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Jan 25, 2015 - 07:46am PT
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I know, I am out the door now to ski JH. Life is good here well over 200".
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2015 - 11:27am PT
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ha ha ha ^^^^^
Still skiing on the same 4-6 inches we have had since thanksgiving.
At least we can!
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Ride that damn lawn mower!........LOL.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Jan 25, 2015 - 05:09pm PT
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Wow. I'm just talking about my experience. And I ski too Buddy. I've been a ski bum at squaw for about 25 years. I'm sure that I'm not in the caliber of someone like you. You defensive little man.
Steve writes:
. I recently had a knee replacement and tried 130, too soft, I had to work more using the muscle groups from my low back to my feet bringing on fatigue I don't normally feel. So back to
I have a funny anectode. I met someone who said that Steve Shea is just like Rudy Garnschitt. Great skier. Total dick.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Do you even surf?
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2015 - 05:48pm PT
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Mowing all that grass.....suffering every BS turn.....Yes ,I surfed,lived in cali for a few years......lot of suffering coming up with a BLIZZARD over here[hopefully].......lol.
Let's just ski.I am fully absorbed,in shape and after it,hope you all are as well.
Cheers,we all need that.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 25, 2015 - 08:07pm PT
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Sounds like your area is about to get a nice storm. Enjoy some freshies for us over here in the dry Sierra.
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east side underground
climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Jan 25, 2015 - 08:36pm PT
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wilbeer don't surf..........(just kidding!) actually skied today ,first day since surgery gotta luv the turn even on the bullshit were calling snow......
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 26, 2015 - 04:40am PT
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steve shea
climber
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Jan 26, 2015 - 06:35am PT
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The report from yesterday. High 35F, PP, wind deposit and sunny. Eight trams. 8x4,139'=lots o' vertical. Nice day on the hill but we are starting to look for a storm.
My daughter finished on the first page in three consecutive SG's this weekend. U18/U16 Speed Series here in JH on a beautiful race surface and mostly clear. Hope everyone gets snow. Looks like NE will get it!
And FF if you look, those comments were about boot flex. You know, touch on snow, not pain. Have a great day.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jan 26, 2015 - 07:37am PT
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Norm, I'll be in Jackson the week after next. I'll send you a PM.
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steve shea
climber
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Jan 26, 2015 - 08:14am PT
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The lift lines look huge at The Big, heh heh.
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steve shea
climber
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Jan 26, 2015 - 08:39am PT
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Do you know Cody Thompson? She used to work for Tom Cat in the repair shop. She skied for Team Breck, made the US Development Team, then quit alpine and made the US Tele Team. I picked her up for sponsorship while with Rossignol. Awesome skier she is! We had many great days at The Big. Now she is back to alpine mostly.
Do you know some my old climbing partners Larry Bruce and Molly Higgins? They live in WFMT.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Jan 26, 2015 - 08:48am PT
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Norm is delivering the goods lately. Beautiful!
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 26, 2015 - 03:35pm PT
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2015 - 03:41pm PT
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You are killing me ,Norm......lol
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 26, 2015 - 04:34pm PT
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new nordic norm
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east side underground
climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Jan 26, 2015 - 08:31pm PT
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earn you turns on whatever lifts your skirt
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 27, 2015 - 02:46am PT
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ok, where is the blizard everyone hyped up?
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jan 27, 2015 - 02:51am PT
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I know right! but wait it is a long duration thing, I hope at this point the build up deserves a good pay off.
we shall see . . .
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perswig
climber
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Jan 27, 2015 - 03:08am PT
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Just ramping up here, Trad. I don't much care for Chicken Little, but certainly a substantial coastal event. We've already seen gusts over 60mph, viz sucks, and it looks to last about 18-24 hrs.
Low moisture content for us, though, so less damage predicted than for the Mass cape or Chiloe's backyard.
Helluva storm surge, too.
Surf's up!
Dale
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 27, 2015 - 05:33am PT
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2015 - 08:48am PT
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Nice looking lawn.........Norm.......NNN........LOL.
Cascade Canyon?
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 27, 2015 - 03:37pm PT
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Wilbeer these pictures I've posted have all been from various hut trips in British Columbia. Glad you like them. Here's one more for your viewing pleasure.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Jan 28, 2015 - 04:16am PT
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Nice, Norm
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jan 28, 2015 - 05:19am PT
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British Columbia is a skiers heaven on earth, nice friendly people too!!! Great photos Norm, thanks.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 28, 2015 - 05:46am PT
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2015 - 05:48am PT
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After a quick reread of this thread I would like to thank each and every contributor to it.
The pictures and stories make for a decent read to get you out the door and enjoy this great season.
Thank You Kindly.......Wilbeer
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jan 31, 2015 - 07:39am PT
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Long may you turn wilbeer, thank you!!!
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steve shea
climber
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Jan 31, 2015 - 07:41am PT
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Heading out now to swoop and dart on the flanks of Rendezvous Mt. It has been bullet proof in the am, softening later. Reminds me of NH on a good day. I ran the SnoGlide over our skis so it will be fun cruising with honed skis. SnoGlides are dakine and they make a home version. I kept mine from my Rossi days. A really great tool ifin' you ski all conditions. As we said growing up in NH, if its white we'll ski on it.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 31, 2015 - 07:46am PT
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 31, 2015 - 07:47am PT
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2015 - 01:39pm PT
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Great Shot^^^^^^^real skiing.
Finally got to the Steep Hemlocks.
They still have some filling in to go ,but,man ,this skiing thing is fun!
Yes.420.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2015 - 01:47pm PT
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Cosmic......sounds perfect :)
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Huge powder day here today and i am going climbing instead of skiing....
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2015 - 07:02am PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
If I was up there ,I would be skiing,no offense,but,we have conditions .
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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That's a nice video.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Skiers and climbers are a passionate bunch eh?
Heading out to Montana and Wyoming this week to escape this hell in California. We're finally expecting rain this weekend up to 10,000 feet!!!!!!!!!!! WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!! What little snow we have is about to get washed away by 50 degree water from an atmospheric river, we're toast as skiers.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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I'm in Stowe VT now. It's snowed every day this trip. Snowing right now.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Just got back from climbing. Am going to strap on the skies and hit up the 1/4 mile driveway while the plow truck warms up:)
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2015 - 04:55pm PT
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Keep her on the driveway now!
I would bet the climbing rocks right now.At the bottom of the Steep Hemlocks there is a 60 ft falls we have had,it looked real solid yesterday.
Seems like all my favorite music features a Tele.[Click to View YouTube Video]
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crankster
Trad climber
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Send some our way, eastcoaster's. Another day of biking in N. Tahoe.
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east side underground
climber
Hilton crk,ca
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if you really want to be a ski bum you need to live where there are mountains.....not hills......heh heh heh
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Ha! East Side UG speaks the truth.....this work stuff keeps getting in my way.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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The skiers left side of this hill is the best run on the planet. Maybe...
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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The skiers left side of this hill is the best run on the planet
Which hut is that out of Norm?
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Fairy Meadows Charlie.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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ESUnderground that couloir run has a name something like space walk or moon drop or something. Can't remember.
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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Beautiful!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2015 - 04:15am PT
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Just chewing on things while at work.
New York is full of hills ,hundreds of mountains with over 1000 ft of prominence,the most ski areas in the lower 48 and a huge amount of closed ski areas.5 distinct ranges and tons of BC.
If Vermont was still a county of NY ,like it once was and NY were a country,it would have the most ski areas for a country ,in the world.
Not to even mention Nordic infrastructure.
2 foot of New snow pretty much statewide right now.
Stuck working MA off with plenty in front of me.
Dreaming of being "A SKI BUM" in these HILLS.........LOL!
peace.
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east side underground
climber
Hilton crk,ca
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it's all about the STEEP & DEEP when your a ski bum wilbeer ;) maybe 2' of snowpack here ( if your lucky )
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Dreaming of being "A SKI BUM" in these HILLS.........LOL!
Ha! Know the feeling Wilbeer.....hang in there, I get to go into the Mountain Time Zone for 10 days starting tomorrow, I never come all the way back.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2015 - 04:10pm PT
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Great video Mr.Brennan!
Enjoyed the Hill today............with more snow OTW.[Click to View YouTube Video]
I wish I was in bigger mountains,but,I love the snow over here.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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amazeing thigh deep powder day today and more on the way:)
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2015 - 04:15am PT
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Thomas,I am glad to see that TR.
New Hampshire,the Whites,A truly great winter experience .Always.
Tradman,I would bet you are firing up the plow truck as I type.
Man ,have we been hit over here.
POWDER day for sure,getting out of work and skiing.
That's if I can even drive to the hill.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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That's great Wilbeer. I'm truly happy for you. Strangely warm and dry here in Wyoming right now. I'm off to BC tomorrow for a week at this hut.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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New Hampshire,the Whites,A truly great winter experience .Always.
Indeed. A day last week of Randonee in Crawford Notch. The extreme sub zero cold, guarantees dry powder, straight through 4 feet ( 1M) deep. The winds, blow all of the snow into the trees.
Vermont, where we did 5 days of skiing, was somewhat warmer and less windy. It was only subzero a couple of days.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2015 - 05:15pm PT
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Walleye[I like your avatar,used to catch alot of em,poor mans shrimp]
you must care a little ....lol.
Great pic. and Cheers.Say hey to Mctwisted for me!
Norm Larson,post up some better pictures of BC when your there,Man ....................
That hut picture is something.
I have never skied in BC ,One of these days.....It looks absolutely EPIC.
I hope you and yours enjoy yourselves!
And thanks for blessing this thread with your great pictures.
The above looks like what I saw today,White everywhere you looked.
Totally whipped and smoking a beer with big smiles to all.
Edit;Skinning,breaking trail in deep powder is a great workout,easily twice what cycling is,climbing on the other hand seems to be a whole different muscle group,this spring is going to hurt with all this skiing going on....lol
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Willbeer, get rid of the skins, you'll get fit faster!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Nope on he plow truck. went skiing first! Plowed this evening.. the neighbors had to suffer all day.. Fck em! it's a powder day!:)
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2015 - 07:11pm PT
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That is awesome .
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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the runs are about 1/2 mile long. Not too bad:)
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2015 - 07:31pm PT
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With the really good snow we are having ,I do not think it matters.
It is about getting after it.
It is funny though ,I am about to go to Colorado and I talked to some friends
And they want to come here.
Cheers Nick.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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^ hopefully, Norm gets that kind of snow, east side. but latest report from the Selkirks:
"Warming again here. What a goofy season. It’s either too warm to snow or too cold."
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 10, 2015 - 02:52am PT
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the Conditions report at mad river Glen this weekend was a single word. EPIC
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2015 - 04:16am PT
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Yeah, BC ,It looks terrible.........lolhttp://vimeo.com/118996487
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2015 - 05:05am PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
That dude is a monster on the Tele,some passages sound very pedal steel like,very cool.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Feb 13, 2015 - 08:56am PT
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how many tele skiers does it take to screw in a light bulb..? 4...1 to make the turn and 3 to say nice turns brah..
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Feb 13, 2015 - 10:22am PT
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Actually I think it is 5...you gotta have one who gives props for doing it the hard oldskool way!
I see you are from Mammoth...I had my funniest ski day there back in 2002 or 03...
There was the TTips ski demo which was cranked to 11 in pure Shaka value and more poney tails than High Plains Drifter... I am demoing some skis and end up on the lift with another dude demoing and he was familiar with the area so he offered to show me a run. It was fun and he had this crazy low style..so low that at times he would do this funky double-punch into the sky to kinda get momentum for going back up and switching skis....so on the lift ride back up, I had to ask about it. His reply...
No big air for you guys up in Montana eh?! If you go big, you'd know why... after this he stopped talking to me. I dug.
maybe you know him? he could have been an L-Alien, not sure if he was a local
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Feb 13, 2015 - 11:16am PT
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Cragar...I forgot how to tele and don't have the genteics for the pony tail so no luck on Identifying the low ridin tele guy...I would have been nicer to you..big air is over-rated...
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east side underground
climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Feb 13, 2015 - 04:28pm PT
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rotting johnnny can only ski on skinny little skis with his tassel hat and spandex......heh heh heh
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Feb 13, 2015 - 04:49pm PT
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East Side Underground..i know where you live...thanks ekat...Chicks dig me..
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 13, 2015 - 05:30pm PT
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I care if I tele
I love tele
in fact, my most fond memories of any activity that I ever experienced (on a regular occurrence) was tele skiing,
better than rock climbing? yes...sorry
and only Pure Tele Will do it, every parallel turn is just a waste,
sometimes you need to curb some speed or maybe it's icey
Nothing wrong with doing some parallel turns, but if can tele it, and of course someone can tele almost anything in the normal world, so go ahead and tele it.
Well I'm sure some folks may have different opinions..
BITD we had 2 Bumper stickers that fit those days of tele (1986-2000)
Best Day Ever
Every Tele turn is a new adventure!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 13, 2015 - 07:25pm PT
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Maybe there are times when tele is just fine, but with 50 pounds on my back and a month of steep up and down ahead...
...I wanted randonee gear.
Maybe if there had been the kind of serious tele boots available back then that you can get now it would have been different.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 13, 2015 - 08:22pm PT
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telle still has all the resistance of the spring in the cable bindings for uphill. AT bindings with my ultra light climbing boots are 100% better/easier on the uphills. My telle boots are 75% better on the downhills
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2015 - 03:13am PT
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Have always been a Low Rider.That comes from prying as much of the 3/4 edge Madshus BC 500's in to the snow as I could with my first pair of Asolo's,when I first started back in 84.
Craig,I agree and Ghost ,I hear you about the heavy pack skiing.
We are due to get close to another foot of snow this weekend.
Only the steepest aspects are being considered.
Man......
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 14, 2015 - 07:43am PT
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I agree, low riding is the way to go
Any skiing with a 50 lb pack in the backcountry is nothing more than survival skiing
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Feb 14, 2015 - 12:07pm PT
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Ekat...Send Blanchard the 2 hand sign that signifies Hank...You know...Hand in front of chin and one behind head...rj
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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Feb 14, 2015 - 12:57pm PT
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Nice Walter! You got a pic of me on top after guiding Snake Dike.
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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Feb 16, 2015 - 07:34am PT
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Perfect!
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10b4me
climber
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Feb 16, 2015 - 07:52am PT
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Any skiing with a 50 lb pack in the backcountry is nothing more than survival skiing
+1
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 16, 2015 - 08:32am PT
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What about skiing Half Dome!!!!!!
The cable route, or maybe even Snake Dike with enough Snow,
or is there never enough snow?
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Feb 16, 2015 - 09:55am PT
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Any skiing with a 50 lb pack in the backcountry is nothing more than survival skiing
... but in one case, I had a new pair of Kazamas had way huge towering camber that I could only tame with a pig on my back...
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 16, 2015 - 11:10am PT
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In one way tele skiing is like Rock Climbing
You can do way more excellent skiing with only a light rack and chalk bag.
Or no rack at all, just a camel back and some tunes
Or you slug with heavy packs and max out at 5.6
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 16, 2015 - 11:33am PT
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Well you may need at 15 lb pack for some stuff, just like a medium rack and rope, like the below
Dana Couloir, that's not me, but I did ski it 3 times in the 90s
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2015 - 01:47pm PT
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That Dana Col looks sweet!
So I headed out yesterday to ski
Numerous white outs,40 + mph winds and -3f when I left the house.
I skied up a 1400 ft aspect that rarely comes into condition.It faces the SW and takes awhile to fill in.
It was great skiing.
I got about half way down when I heard a loud rumble.
I stopped and looked back up hill,thinking it was an Avalanche.After all I was skiing a true landslide,it has been known to slide before.
It was not,It was Thunder and then more ,with a couple of flashes of lightning .All during a heavy snowfall.
Unreal.
Later ,that evening ,it ice rained,it was still -3f.
Two things I have never seen.
Did not someone already ski Half Dome?
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2015 - 03:37pm PT
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Interest fades,some are ready for a change in season.Winter will end.
We will be Caring,into May this year.[Click to View YouTube Video]
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 22, 2015 - 04:58pm PT
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yesterday out my back door and 15k of skiing Hitched a ride up this today:)
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 22, 2015 - 05:46pm PT
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HS^^^^^^^^^
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Feb 22, 2015 - 06:22pm PT
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Tradman that's the way - to toprope - </;+{D, ' ! Much Respect Want to climb in NEW JERSEY?! All first ASCENTS!!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2015 - 06:26pm PT
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 23, 2015 - 06:44pm PT
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Three hour ski tour out behind the cabin strange things you find in the woods
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Feb 24, 2015 - 05:45am PT
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[photoid=399975]
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Feb 24, 2015 - 06:19am PT
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Feb 24, 2015 - 02:23pm PT
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Feb 24, 2015 - 02:25pm PT
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You're killing me Norm! Don't stop.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Feb 25, 2015 - 05:25am PT
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Feb 25, 2015 - 07:02am PT
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wow, that's nice stuff
My friend and I always do figure 8s when we hit new pow. It was amazing to have that in the East this year.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Feb 25, 2015 - 07:13am PT
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this is Norm Larsons' picture not mine just trying to help it is such a sweet shot!
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WyoRockMan
climber
Flank of the Big Horns
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Feb 25, 2015 - 08:31am PT
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The last few from Norm have made my loins tingly.
Great shots!
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Feb 25, 2015 - 09:00am PT
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2015 - 02:59pm PT
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No time to post when the skiing has been so good.
Just started 2-3 weeks off,cannot decide whether to get to Colorado,
Or Vermont and the Dacks.
Sold my house ,moved out,starting to build another,but we have WAY too much snow and cannot get started on the new one.
I do not know the question,but,Skiing is the answer.[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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NORM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujň de la Playa
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I don't think they're out to make money on the video, but thankfully a little notice was given to Jimi Hendrix there at the end. Then again, nobody cares, right.
On the other hand, I guess most everyone who skis know who Jimi is, but do they know Luna?
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Call it in (or at least tele).
루나랑 결혼하고싶다 그럼 매일 아침마다 넌 나보다 10분먼저 일어나 가야금을 꺼내서 내 기상시각에 불쾌한 알람소리말고
대신 부두차일을 켜주는거야 매일아침마다 심지어 추석때 울엄마한테 잔소리들어가며 송편빚고 고생한뒤 다음날에도
그리곤 자식이 생기면 장구를 가르쳐서 합주를 시킬테야
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Mar 15, 2015 - 05:57pm PT
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루나랑 결혼하고싶다 그럼 매일 아침마다 넌 나보다 10분먼저 일어나 가야금을 꺼내서 내 기상시각에 불쾌한 알람소리말고
대신 부두차일을 켜주는거야 매일아침마다 심지어 추석때 울엄마한테 잔소리들어가며 송편빚고 고생한뒤 다음날에도
그리곤 자식이 생기면 장구를 가르쳐서 합주를 시킬테야
So I want to marry Luna Every morning you wake up and take out the gayageum 10 minutes before the alarm sounds rather unpleasant time in my weather
Instead of nagging him even enters pier Thanksgiving when my mom every morning, even after going to turn the childs day after suffering dish bitgo
And children are taught the saenggimyeon stomp to the ensemble outfits
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Mar 15, 2015 - 07:05pm PT
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lost in translation
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Mar 15, 2015 - 07:54pm PT
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tradmanclimbs---fix your wallet keep tele'n
from Jack
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MisterE
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 15, 2015 - 08:46pm PT
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Is it OK if I care if you tele?
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Mar 15, 2015 - 08:55pm PT
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I'd rather you tele than strat.
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Mar 15, 2015 - 09:20pm PT
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Well, I care just got back from mammoth mtn and got in some good turns!!!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2015 - 07:16pm PT
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When I sit back for a moment,I wonder ,not how many times I have skied this season ,but, how many miles,up or down.
Man, it has been a great winter over here,spring ,so far as well.
Hope you all are still getting after it,spring skiing rules.[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Mar 28, 2015 - 03:53am PT
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I live at the top of a hill. One of those east coast thousand footers..
To say that the last few years have been sledding bliss would be an understatement. The end of March and we are looking at a fresh inch in the hills and wet slushy up to three inches by four am.
I used to love the snow and play with it
Both stand up skiing and sledding with the kids Evry weekend.?
Ten years and then??. . .. Aye kidzs wanto go sledding??
I have a new rule, or two. . .
One snow man taller than an eleven year old
& The kidz have to take dad sledding twice a winter a month apart!
To much snow is just enough . . . .!!!! we did not get Boston's dumpage
And the old girl curled up and went to sleep, but the blanket of white has been nice and I will miss it!!
Now, April the snow, it needs to go.it is rock climbing season.
The last time we saw a sixty degree day was December first!
That was a late season warm day.
Today it will not get out of the thirties.
I wish I was still in my thirties !
I am ceeding hay is to starving deer including a buck or two. No the auto correct hunts
I am feeding the critters with molasses soaked grains and a bale of hay/alfalfa mix!
and not bothering them by taking any pics, it has Been full on, a tuff winter, on all out doors this winter. So Feed them starving critters.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Mar 29, 2015 - 05:47pm PT
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I went through 40lbs of bird seed a week in feb! mostly been Xc skiing the last few weeks. mix of kick and skate. lots of climbing as well:)
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Mar 29, 2015 - 06:14pm PT
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Good advise jack. My XC skies and poles $10.00 from the 2nd hand store. My telle boots and skies older than Donini....
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 5, 2015 - 12:43pm PT
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Here as well....
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Happy Easter y'all.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2015 - 05:22pm PT
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You are not kidding,Is that one of the Hass's from the Mountaineer in Keene,Tradman?
Either way ,good stuff.
Tradman you want to hit Tucks?
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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It's my buddy Chris. he's a mas#@&%e but a killington ski house local. I have a nasty cold but hope to feel up to Moosalake sunday if the weather allows. Isa comes home from Europe next week so all my plans after that will hinge on her scedual. Probobly not up for washington. Getting the rock climbing bugg....
damn, i can't believe they wont let you spell Mass Hole?
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2015 - 06:38pm PT
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I do hear you about the rock climbing bug.
Just have not been to Tucks in years,it is about time
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Apr 13, 2015 - 03:56pm PT
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I did make it to Moosilauke. The skin up kicked my butt!
Headding for that little white spot up high 5.1 miles away a whole lot of this an finally you see this still over a mile away annother mile of skinning gets you here the last little bit to the top view from the top getting ready to ski back down allong this ridge Good day:)
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crankster
Trad climber
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Apr 13, 2015 - 05:33pm PT
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Nice, t-man.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Apr 13, 2015 - 07:40pm PT
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thanks for the summit shots tradman..Looks like you live in a nice place...rj
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2015 - 07:15pm PT
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Great pictorial Tradman.
That looks to be a cool mountain.
Lapping up the corn over here....
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Apr 21, 2015 - 09:35am PT
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I know its not exactly tele, but nice ski skate video. There's much less snow now in the Desolation, 3 weeks later....
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 21, 2015 - 05:45pm PT
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Very Cool kunlun!
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jim Clements
Mountain climber
Boulder, CO
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Apr 21, 2015 - 07:03pm PT
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Apr 23, 2015 - 07:24pm PT
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Nordic New School... those Frenchies ;-)
[Click to View YouTube Video]a parody of freeskier Candide Thovex's “One Of Those Days”.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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May 20, 2015 - 07:44pm PT
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kunlun, what a cool video....so great to see folks getting out and making the most of this miserable winter in the Tahoe Sierra. I met you out at Buck's Bar a few years ago, we talked about skiing of course....drop me a PM if you're in the neighborhood for a day out on rock or snow.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - May 20, 2015 - 08:08pm PT
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Skiing Kilington this weekend.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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May 21, 2015 - 04:50am PT
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Great video, THANKS
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crankster
Trad climber
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May 21, 2015 - 06:31am PT
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Kunlun, nice video in Desolation. We only managed to get out a few times on the skinny skis in N. Tahoe this season. Luckily, I have relatives on the east coast who invited me out.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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May 26, 2015 - 01:15pm PT
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Classic^^^^^^^
Susan
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2015 - 01:22pm PT
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Beards,have they really left?
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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May 26, 2015 - 02:43pm PT
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Is that Killington photo, Bear mtn? Haven't been, in years. :(
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sempervirens
climber
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May 26, 2015 - 04:44pm PT
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Bah, not one original thought in that slop.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 26, 2015 - 04:51pm PT
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Hell even I would tele for free microbrews...If I'm gunna faceplant the pow instead of skiing it I might as well have a few brews.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2016 - 06:54pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
I have to say ,Mr. Shea,that is completely Badass.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Well done on setting the tyrolean... uh... solo?
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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Making a pointless activity
more difficult rocks.
Butt wigglers and
knuckle draggers
can suck it!
Free yo healz fool.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Wows! love those jump turns...
Susan
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Wicked fast knees!!!
Quite the crew on the credits and some fine skiing by Steve.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Nothing like having a rusty half broken cable being the only thing keeping your interface with a steep line attached to your boot. Telemarking is goofy. But it's a poor excuse to suck at skiing.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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it was really great to get out the last few days in butler Gultch and the east portal.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Jan 22, 2016 - 10:58am PT
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 25, 2016 - 02:12pm PT
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Isa jumped ship...
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2016 - 07:14pm PT
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That was a great vid kunlan!!
I wish we had some up here,I am 5 hours away from the City.
The track of that storm was amazing,I know folks that live within 30 miles of each other,one had a trace ,the other ,close to 2 feet.
I am still having fun w/the edgeless Marquettes.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Tradman,she is still skiing and it looks good up your way!
Heading to the Dacks.Cheers
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jan 25, 2016 - 07:23pm PT
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2016 - 07:33pm PT
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Good to see yer getting around Colorado Mike.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Feb 15, 2016 - 02:38pm PT
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What did the tele skier say when he ran out of weed?
Man, these bindings suck.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Feb 15, 2016 - 03:12pm PT
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Friday, in New Mexico, with Wheeler Peak in the background.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Feb 15, 2016 - 05:34pm PT
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Nice, John.
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Fogarty
climber
BITD
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Feb 15, 2016 - 06:12pm PT
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Feb 15, 2016 - 06:22pm PT
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Willbeer, that Bosstown vid is wicked good!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 18, 2016 - 05:28pm PT
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Up until yesterday,our biggest snowfall this season was 4 inches.
We received 22 inches tuesday.
At this point my place is a ski lodge.
The road on my hill has just been plowed today.
I wish they did not do that.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Feb 19, 2016 - 06:00pm PT
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jack has also gone to the light er I mean dark side that meshes so well with ice climbing. I guess since he is so light now and I still tele he could carry my ice boots in.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Feb 19, 2016 - 06:53pm PT
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I use to care but I'm too old anymore and I got real fat:
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Feb 20, 2016 - 06:12am PT
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SPARKS TO PAINS IN MY KNEES
Awesome videos ....all of 'em
Thnx for that one ... S L Rat
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 20, 2016 - 08:16am PT
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Feb 20, 2016 - 08:58am PT
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Thanks Jim. Butler Gultch is a beautiful place.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Feb 20, 2016 - 06:12pm PT
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HermitMaster
Social climber
my abode
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Feb 23, 2016 - 01:50pm PT
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^^^That was great!!!^^^^
My favorite was when he knocked the guy down and stole his horse...
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2016 - 02:19pm PT
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Anyone around here interested in a trip up Independence Peak, ski down the Northeast Gullies, during the weekend of March 11-13? Nothing crazy, just fun and getting acclimated for bigger adventures.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Wilbeer
we (I) do the same thing on Mt. Bikes
straight down on the carpeted forest
over the talus
through the weeds
jump the logs
The terrain is perfect
The code word is "Sweet Pumice"
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Mar 10, 2016 - 01:27am PT
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does it count when my dynafit explodes and i'm stuck in tour mode on one ski for a week while it's dumping?
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Mar 10, 2016 - 03:16am PT
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kunlun_shan
That reminds me of snow boarders crashing into people in lift lines
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2016 - 05:28am PT
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Mar 11, 2016 - 04:46am PT
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Mar 11, 2016 - 04:48am PT
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Mar 11, 2016 - 04:50am PT
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Mar 11, 2016 - 05:09am PT
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This thread rocks,- thanx
&
Fry, if thats your idea of fun you are to crazy to play with... almost
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2016 - 12:57pm PT
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Thanks for making this what it is folks.
I don't care if you Tele.
Today;[Click to View YouTube Video]
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Mar 11, 2016 - 01:12pm PT
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Tucks, is awesome! The weirdest thing, was Giant Saloming all the guise climbing up.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Mar 11, 2016 - 03:36pm PT
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2016 - 03:44pm PT
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Thank You.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Mar 13, 2016 - 08:30pm PT
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Had a bunch of fun up in the high country this weekend.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Mar 14, 2016 - 04:03am PT
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Mar 14, 2016 - 04:33am PT
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Great photos Norm...Tetons or BC, both? Got up to Whitecap Alpine earlier this season, awesome terrain...
These guys use to tele.....
We're finally having a normal winter in the home range, loving it.....
Enjoy!!!
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Mar 14, 2016 - 08:49am PT
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Mar 20, 2016 - 07:46pm PT
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great weekend on Berthoud after they get around 4 feet last week
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Mar 21, 2016 - 02:05pm PT
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Previous was north face of Stanley. This is skullbite on Berthoud [Click to View YouTube Video]Got out to Hallet this morning and skied some nice powder along the base of the wall in 50mph winds. Went solo so no videoDragon Tail anyone skied it?
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Mar 21, 2016 - 03:26pm PT
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^^^wow Mike beautiful!
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Mar 21, 2016 - 06:32pm PT
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I'm getting ski wood.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Mar 23, 2016 - 07:14pm PT
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catch a concert and some powder turns at the same time.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Mar 26, 2016 - 07:40am PT
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^^^skins are way cheaper!!!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2016 - 09:13pm PT
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Great page of stuff up there.
A couple of buddies are up in Steamboat,at least I receive a photo.
There will be no spring season in New York.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Mar 26, 2016 - 10:13pm PT
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Sorry for the warm weather but I am super excited for my first spring in co. Looking like it will be a good one. If it makes you feel any better I went to the black hills for my first full week off in almost two years with mt bikes and rock climbing gear and got neither out the whole week due to snow. got to eat and drink a lot though.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2016 - 10:20pm PT
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Thanks Mike,I am still trying to get away.
My good friend Andy who runs Hideaway Park Brewery up in Winter Park says Mary Jane will be open till late May.
I have alot of oars in the water ,but .....
Edit;but.....There is nothing like spring skiing in Colorado[at least for me ]cheers.
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doughnutnational
Gym climber
its nice here in the spring
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Apr 18, 2016 - 07:28pm PT
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Hello Timid if your out there. My daughter (pictured above) wants to ski Lassen on Wednesday from the Devastated Area. Will it be as good as I assured her it will be? Thanks in advance for any relevant information or pictures. (Sorry I failed in making her a telemarker)
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Apr 28, 2016 - 09:54am PT
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Got a few powder tuns in on Sunday. Sounds like we could have some deep pow this weekend. They have already put some work into trail ridge road.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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powder day yesterday.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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A couple more shots from yesterday.Even a little ice reforming.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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^^^awesome Mike, nice turns!!!
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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This getting my stoke up. Thanks! I'm a few days away from a good snowy adventure and should hopefully have some good pics to share back to the thread
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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got a nice run in done in RNMP with 2000 plus feet of vert yesterday.you drop right off the top of trail ridge but then have a couple hour hike out
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Mike, have you done Fairchild yet?
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Upper Little Cottonwood Canyon yesterday...
Minimal hiking...!
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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nice turns, sik pow, I'm stoked, braj
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Todd E. I have not done Fairchild. Not sure where it is. Mike
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Fairchild South Face is NE of Ypslion. Good vertical and nice angle! Start out at Lawn Lake TH and tromp up Ypsilon, scoot over to Fairchild and ski yer brains out, and then march out the creek to the trail.
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golsen
Social climber
kennewick, wa
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Redline Up, Blue line down. Mt. Adams on June 5. 16.
The Pack
The Summit, Rainier in the Distance.
The SW Chutes is a totally incredible line. The same angle for about 3,000 feet.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 7, 2016 - 05:01pm PT
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Nice...
Edit;Actually Real Nice!
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golsen
Social climber
kennewick, wa
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Thanks Wilbeer.
I am not at all sure of the intent of the thread. I first skied in 1966 at Loveland Basin (yes I am old). Beartrap bindings and lace up leather boots. I was so damn excited to get a pair of Head Std skis 160cm at 10 yrs old in 1971. Family moved to Utah at the mouth of LCC in 1972. I got in trouble for missing school to go skiing so often. Ski raced for the Snowbird race team in the 70s. Started telemarking and skiing on shitty XC gear (Epoke 1100's) in about 1980. Totally got rid of my Alpine stuff until about 1996.
Groundup earlier in the thread said that if you get on telemarking stuff that it helps your skiing. It did mine, especially on shitty, shitty gear. Todays skate gear has more support than what we had in the early 80's. I never thought I would go back to Alpine. But I did to coach ski racing. Where I finally learned how to ski after 35 years. Oh, dont get me wrong all the other sliding helped. I still tele on my shitty lightweight XC ski gear. But frankly, the evolution of skiing and its equipment has changed so much from 30 years ago that with plastic (tele) boots and all the other sh#t, its not all that hard, and doesnt make sense. Still fun. But I dont care if anyone teles. Unless they are on shitty cheap gear. Then I care.
Kind of like leaving the rack behind.
At the end of the day, whether your teleing, snowboarding or skiing its all sliding over snow.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 8, 2016 - 06:17am PT
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Golsen,"I am not at all sure of the intent of the thread."
I believe your post nailed it down ,solid.
Nobody cares if you Tele,splitboard or Alpine.What most care about ,whether it be inbounds,sidecountry or backcountry,is the
Glisse.
The experience,the pursuit and the rewards they bring.
One true thing I miss of the west,spring ascents and descents.
Good weather,corn snow and cold beers at the end of it all.
TFPU.
Those Asolo Summit's are still my favourite's Jim.
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golsen
Social climber
kennewick, wa
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Jim,
I used those boots on the Wapta Traverse a long time ago! I admit, I did like my original T2's.
Winter is only a few months away. :)
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jun 11, 2016 - 01:33pm PT
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golsen
Social climber
kennewick, wa
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Jul 25, 2016 - 03:24pm PT
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Emmons Glacier last weekend. It is still winter like on Rainier!
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climber
away from the ground
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Oct 10, 2016 - 08:08pm PT
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Bump
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Oct 11, 2016 - 03:15pm PT
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I got a Cold Cold World pack in the mail to me, arrives next week :D
I'll pray for a series of early November storm systems to blow through Southern Sierra, setting up an early season Thanksgiving week adventure!
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Oct 11, 2016 - 04:02pm PT
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Weather alert, storm rolling in, but will only snow above 8500
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 21, 2016 - 09:14pm PT
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perswig
climber
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Oct 22, 2016 - 05:37am PT
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You guys forcast for solid precip tomorrow, Wilbeer?
Dale
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2016 - 05:06pm PT
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Yesir,Mt.Mansfield ,Vermont ,today.Thanks Greg.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Oct 23, 2016 - 05:47pm PT
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I was in sandals, shorts and no shirt 2 days ago here in West Virginia.
Thanks for the reminder, time to get out my ski-tuning toolbox and get at it.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2016 - 06:34am PT
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Harry,it was 85 up here Wednesday,man did it turn.
I am going to make it to Whitegrass/Timberline this season,I will let you know,cheers ! [Click to View YouTube Video]
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Oct 24, 2016 - 07:40am PT
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Liking golsens photos above. We used something like that ledge in the second photo for our tents, a few days after, maybe around July 30th.
But skiing Emmons, maybe was a little more adventure than I was up for. Guessing his shots are higher up. Well done golsen.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Oct 24, 2016 - 04:28pm PT
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But skiing Emmons, maybe was a little more adventure than I was up for. Crevasses are not dangerous, unless you fall into them.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Some distraction from the political sh*tshow.
Great video by Jordan Manley.... backcountry powder skiing in Changbaishan (NE China near N Korea)... some perspective on modern skiing in China... and the Altai Mtns (far NW), where skiing originated.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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golsen
Social climber
kennewick, wa
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Nov 13, 2016 - 03:51pm PT
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Thanks John,
I was a bit concerned about crevasses, especially since I was with my son and his buddy, neither of which had ever skied on AT stuff before. his mother would have killed me! But my son ski raced for years and his buddy did fine. The ski down was the best!
Rainier from Camp Schurman last July
If you want one of the finest ski runs in the Lower 48, check out Mt. Adams.
Red line up, Blue line down. Last June - Killer!
Pray for snow.
Another fun ride is Mt. Hood. Here is a guy climbing up, last June.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2016 - 06:28pm PT
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2 foot ,yeah man!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2016 - 01:39pm PT
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Happy Thanksgiving
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 25, 2016 - 09:20am PT
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We are getting some T-day deposition up here too which bodes well. I usually don't even think about getting out until the knee biters are well buried.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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We sure could use some snow. Hiked a long ways to make a few fresh turns. Indian Peaks seems to have some wind
666 coming soon.
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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A long time friend of mine started a new skin company.
If you're in the market, be sure to check them out. Quality product, made entirely in Montana, competitive pricing. Help out the little guy.
https://www.skiskinsonline.com/index.html
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Thanks for the skins heads-up!
Any folks on here using the NTN boots/bindings, specifically the Freedom binding? Thoughts/ideas on touring and lift served with the NTN? Last year I wrenched my knee causing MCL/meniscus damage and will not ski and non-release again. I have been tele-ing for 20+ years. I tried Alpine a couple times and to it lacked any soul(sorry for the corny term) and flow to me. I grew up skating and surfing so I thought about split-boarding but I prefer to tour so the constant putting the board together and then taking apart is kind of a dealio breaker. So, NTN it is!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2016 - 05:22pm PT
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Yeah man.
Slade ,with the bad ass tele rhythm.[maybe mustang][Click to View YouTube Video]
We have had some already but it is back to something that is going around over here[Click to View YouTube Video]
I am buying some of those skins,thanks.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2016 - 05:26pm PT
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Cragar ,I do not know what to say,I still ski Voile 3 Pins,hate cables and stiffer set ups.
T2's inbounds T4's out.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Thanks Wilbeer, appreciate your info. I hope to find some XCD stuff
I will not ski non-release anymore and my terrain in the mountains isn't mellow enough for me to be comfy all locked in. 2 knee injuries finally got the point across to me! Of course, my friends say "well just don't wreck" but for me that isn't an option or my reality. I got the NTN bindings and boots and I will mount it up next week, just in time for the second part of a double-whammy of snow they are calling for!!
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climber
away from the ground
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Watermann was right, it's fluffy and cold!
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Gunks Ray
Trad climber
Gunks
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Any folks on here using the NTN boots/bindings, specifically the Freedom binding? Thoughts/ideas on touring and lift served with the NTN? Last year I wrenched my knee causing MCL/meniscus damage and will not ski and non-release again. I have been tele-ing for 20+ years. I tried Alpine a couple times and to it lacked any soul(sorry for the corny term) and flow to me. I grew up skating and surfing so I thought about split-boarding but I prefer to tour so the constant putting the board together and then taking apart is kind of a dealio breaker. So, NTN it is!
I've been Tele skiing for 30 years or so, starting on pins and leather and upgrading in increments through the years. I've now been skiing NTN for about 6 years or so skiing and touring on Freedoms since late 12 or early 13, I like the system quite a bit, I like the Freedoms better than the older Freerides but I like the Meidjo more than both of them. Although both of the Rottefella bindings can and do release, I have released from them, they are not guaranteed to release, I did break my ankle skiing in Freerides 5 years ago burying a tip in real tricky snow.
https://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/binding/m-equipment-meidjo-20-telemark-binding?gclid=CNettbSg5dACFcmIswoduYUMJg
Toured on those bindings last spring, way lighter than any other comparable Tele binding, tours great, and can release at the toe or heel (underfoot?)
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Gunks Ray
Trad climber
Gunks
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Gunks Ray? What ski and boot would you marry to that binding?
Only 3 boots currently made for that binding, Scarpa TX Pro, Crispi Evo NTN, and Crispi Shiver NTN. I'm using both the Scarpa TX Pro and the now out of production Scarpa TX which is a lighter 3 buckle boot than the TX Pro and my preferred boot for touring. If you get one of the Crispi's make sure it's the latest model with the Dynafit fittings in the toe.
The Meidjo binding is pretty powerful and adjustable for skiing style, very precise with virtually no toe slop or play in the binding, and it has an adjustable heel release (second heel?)You could pretty much mount it on any ski, spent a day skiing all over Mammoth last spring with no binding issues at all, but the binding really shines on a light ski in the back country.
I have mine mounted on a pair of G3 Carbon Synapse 101's really light ski best for skiing spring skiing corn or good powder, but low tips make it problematic in any kind of mixed or difficult snow conditions. I'm just about to mount them to a pair of Dynastar Mythic 97's which I think will be a really great combo for pretty much any condition.
Anybody want to buy a pair of G3 Carbon Synapse 101 skis 170cm cheap?
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Thanks Gunks RAYgun! I really appreciate it. I got the TX Comps and Freedom bindings. I wanted the TX Pro but a buddy was adamant that the bellows were too soft and I trust his words. We get good powder but we also get a mix of PNW heavy with a little N. Rockies cream and the soft bellows can be sucky in the mix or reef conditions. I have mostly used T-Race with much pleasure. Have you felt this? I don't mind the extra 'struggle' in the BC as I am used to heavy non-free pivot traps! No more traps! I will mount the Freedoms on my G3 Tonics and go from there... I might try some more new-school ski but have no idea what to look at so I'll continue to drink the Tonics for a bit..
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Gunks Ray
Trad climber
Gunks
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Cragar, TX Comps and Freedoms are a good match, I've got a pair of Comps as well and I've skied that combo, although I generally like softer boots, but I'm only 5'8" 160lbs. I like the Freedom better than the Freeride as do others, but some have a problem with the low heel on the Freedom which is lower than most other Tele bindings.
The Comp Weighs the same as the Pro so with a free pivot binding it tours just as well as the Pro. There are more than a few skiers who would love to see the Comp with Tech Toe fittings for the Dynafit style bindings but it doesn't look like that is going to happen anytime soon.
Have a blast with the new gear!
I had a great time skiing Big Sky and Moonlight 4 years ago with the Tx Pro and the Freedoms mounted on a pair of DPS 112rp skis, worked for me on pretty much all the terrain, but we didn't get anything heavy or deep while we were there.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Coo! Still haven't made it to Moonlight/Big Sky, maybe this year..
Yeah, I read about the lower heel plate and figure maybe a shim if I can't handle it?
Do you know why it is like it is?
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steve s
Trad climber
eldo
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Dec 18, 2016 - 11:09am PT
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Jim, thanks for the pics of snow on those goofy guys. My mom lived right above them. Cool to see them covered in snow. Cheers
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Dec 24, 2016 - 12:53pm PT
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Ditto, Tahoe.
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climber
away from the ground
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Dec 24, 2016 - 01:13pm PT
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The hard part is choosing which spine to shred.
And the 100 ft alder covered cliff at the bottom to deal with.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Well did the bullet and got an AT setup. Will probably still tele occasionally but nobody cares anyway so who cares.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Nice. Turns is turns but seems tele is losing market share every season.
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steve s
Trad climber
eldo
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Jim B , Merry X-mas and happy new year to you. Thanks again for the pics of snow in Vancouver! Cheers!
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Deffenately have a learning curve on the flats with the at gear. Don't miss the weight though. Was bummed that my crampons did not fit the boots though. Also someone needs to make a leather ice climbing boot comparable with tech bindings.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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I could probably levitate those boots. Bet they sell for half or less within a year. Seems like a lot of new technology is not well designed or durable. Ski boots of look like they have for so long for a reason I would imagine.
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Peater
Trad climber
Salt Lake City Ut.
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Sorry I didn't read all the above posts: there's just too many.
But if you Tele you Tele. I've never even tried anything else.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Eastside, are you afraid of speed?
Why are you dragging yer arm?
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climber
away from the ground
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It does kind of suck to have to bend over to get into your bindings.
But nobody cares...
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Peater
Trad climber
Salt Lake City Ut.
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East Side and Eastman: Laughing loving your comments.
East Side I like Tele because of the movement. It is really complicated. I know there is movement (lots of it) on a board but I like the feeling on the two free heel boards.
I used to windsurf and I always wondered if the foot power worked the same way. On big boards you would plunge the right turning foot to go "down" and turn left into the wind. But on the smaller glass boards you would pull the right rail up to go left into the wind.
Always wanted to try boarding to see which way it worked on snow.
Eastman: In the photo He's trying to get his iphone out of his pocket. He'll go faster in a minute or two.
:)
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east side underground
climber
paul linaweaver hilton crk ca
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Eastman thats not me in photo, a french friend from tignes way steeper than it looks lets see you make that move. Ha Ha ive never been accused of being afraid of speed . me in photos above. Petater, nothing like the leverage one can get on a board. give it a try it's a blast. cheers
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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ESU, just kidding. All those shots look super. Where is the last one? Looks like back East at treeline...
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east side underground
climber
paul linaweaver hilton crk ca
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field of dreams backside mammoth. Just f*#king with you , its dumping here almost a foot over nite at my place lets go tele!!!!! cheers
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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I grew up skating/surfing, so I boarded from the ages of 20-25 around the central Sierra, S. Tahoe and the Eastside. I frikkin loved it!! When I moved to MT in 94 I wanted to find the Freedom of the Hills in the winter and there was no way I'd put snowshoes on so I tried tele. Immediately, I fell in love with the challenge and the feel of it. I think of it is similar to boarding in terms of the feel of the carve and initially you have your regular(regular stance) turn and your off(fakey) turn. I have tried alpine and felt none of that. I felt like a cat with masking tape on it's paw with the locked heel. I occasionally think about getting a board for the area but I always end up back on my FreelHeelers and in a couple weeks, I'll be on NTN for it's 'releaseness' for the first time and am stoked to try it.
That said, like EastSide says, there isn't really anything like a board in deep powder and I think it has a lot to do with the toe side/heel side edging as opposed to the sides of your feet....what do you think EastSide?
Just Giv'r!!
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flatlandermcjack
Trad climber
Speardawg, SD
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tele is super awesome until you buy AT gear and do some real skiing
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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no one cares that porno bob telle skiis
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2017 - 06:32pm PT
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Nice shot Nick,Mount Snow?
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Hiko Pico. super populer for skinning.they are closed tues and wed and allow skinning. also ok after 4 any day.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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If you have the $ 1200.00 and like Dynafit bindings, these boots won't bury your front points...
Jim Brennan, re. Arcteryx Procline... Solomon's new X-Alp ski touring boot is modeled from the Procline, and will be cheaper and more widely available. Hopefully! The X-Alp is not yet for sale, though Lou Dawson is testing it: https://www.wildsnow.com/21423/salomon-ski-touring-x-alp-boot-mtn/
Salomon did a no-brainer here. They took the Arcteryx Procline form factor (the two companies are entwined) and presumably the same mold tooling, and made a full-on ski touring boot.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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These boots keep getting better for function and dexterity, Jim.
Same Italian boot designer, Federico Sbrissa, behind the Dynafit TLT5, the Arcteryx Procline, and now base of the X-Alp.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 8, 2017 - 05:56pm PT
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Grooming Canadice Hill trails,4F.Skiing off them.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 11, 2017 - 04:16am PT
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Jan 11, 2017 - 06:08am PT
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Great shot Norm, I'm jealous. We've got good snow but not the snowpack you're on. Heading north come visit. We live out near Hyalite canyon. Best, Donnie
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Jan 11, 2017 - 06:12am PT
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Hey Wilbeer!
Are you grooming for phat biking or is that just a narrow tech section of the skate lane?
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2017 - 07:33am PT
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Cragar,I groom for the Rochester CC Ski Federation,at Canadice Hill.Technically I groom 20+ miles of trail for skiers ,they do not like fatbikes ,but I do.
Great picture Norm.
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Jan 11, 2017 - 07:34am PT
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no offense Cragar, but looks to me Wilbeer is grooming for XC skiing. Yes what's now called "classic", sure you know. Some of the FS trails around Boz get occasional rolling, and certainly not suitable for xc skating. Best HC
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Jan 11, 2017 - 07:54am PT
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I bought new XC skis last month and then went on a hut-to-hut trip in Maine. Hardly my most sizzling adventure, but at 68 I need to reduce the impact sports. Still feeling where I fell on my ice axe in the Airondacks early December.
eta: funny thing, the new XC skis, were around a foot less than my old ones.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 11, 2017 - 08:00am PT
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You are an inspiration John!
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Jan 11, 2017 - 08:06am PT
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Coo! We have a corridor that gets groomed about the same width and set tracks for 'xc' on both sides and folks walk in the middle and they frown on the fatties using there groom. Personally, I could care less if they fat it up on the groomed for 'xc' but I don't dig the tracks on the groomed skate lanes. Oh and I appreciate all those groomers out there that put in the time for the rest of us, an extended thanks to you Wilbeer!!!
HC, how's the nordy thing coming along in your b'zone? We have perfect conditions(above normal pack and density) in town and the 'bilers have been grooming a lot of FS road miles just outside of town for that Nordic ski BC kinda feel...I dig!!
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 15, 2017 - 04:46am PT
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jan 15, 2017 - 06:38am PT
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An easy approach to some great skiing, Northern Bridger Mountains Montana.....
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Jan 15, 2017 - 08:06am PT
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The last couple biuebird days are well shown in Norm and Charlie's pics! Cold and clear, great conditions.
CharlieD, good to see Frazier country makin a show. That's my greater backyard. Who are you? I knew from your posts that you enjoyed cold, interior snow, but now the bzone. You might know that the peak above and left of 2nd photo, is skiable right from the top in good years, down the shaded face on right. Looks too thin now. It's also a known assassin.
Here's deep Hyalite a couple seasons back when conditions were quite safe.
cragar, yes the skinny sliding has been great. You have more snowpack up north though.
Charlie or Norm, contact me: blackwerk7atgmail.com I'd like to say hi.
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absolute zero
Trad climber
camino
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Jan 15, 2017 - 08:19am PT
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charlie i'm tele-ing in the boots you gifted me!
and the skiis that i bought at supertopo.mart!
only i know less than the minimum, regarding what the f*#k i'm doing.
and in this naive display of venerability, once again the most beautiful chicks in the world flock to me.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jan 15, 2017 - 09:13am PT
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Happy Cowboy, check your email
Absolute Zero......lets ski, you around on Friday? Should be a powder day at the local hill.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jan 15, 2017 - 09:40am PT
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Happy Cowboy, my computer says your email is not valid....could be my typical user error, let me know.
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Jan 15, 2017 - 01:18pm PT
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Charlie, just got back from skiing. Can't find email anywhere? blackwerk7@gmail.com
or 406-570-2571
Best, Donnie Black
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absolute zero
Trad climber
camino
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Jan 15, 2017 - 01:21pm PT
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charlie i'll be up monday and perhaps tuesday but can't do friday.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 15, 2017 - 02:19pm PT
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Jan 15, 2017 - 02:55pm PT
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Norm's got skiing!
When you return, is it to where you posted pics here earlier, last season?
It all looks so good. I miss the pass. Keep turn in' Larson.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Jan 15, 2017 - 03:44pm PT
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Two days ago Angles Crest Hwy Southern California. Barely enough to ski but worth a quick solo morning tour.
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perswig
climber
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Jan 15, 2017 - 05:07pm PT
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Enviable photos!
Hey, John Duffield, were you doing the Maine Huts and Trails system? Climbed with a guy who did some of the hut construction, but haven't yet seen his work or used the trails. Next time I'm gettin' useless in Eustis, I'd like to make time to tour a bit.
Dale
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Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
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Jan 16, 2017 - 02:01pm PT
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Charlie,
Montana looks nice!
Swing by Boulder on the way home and I'll show you the local hills!
Rick
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Jan 17, 2017 - 07:59pm PT
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Nobody cares that you need a plow truck to un-bury the plow truck.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Jan 17, 2017 - 08:18pm PT
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Yeah, that particular dog is the strongest ski dog I've ever seen. Absolutely charges through 30" of low density. Stupid, but strong. And cute.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jan 23, 2017 - 06:11pm PT
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Some shots from the last few weeks. noboby probably cares but mostly at
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Feb 20, 2017 - 08:09pm PT
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AKDOG
Mountain climber
Anchorage, AK
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Feb 21, 2017 - 12:19am PT
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F, I think I just skied there.....
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Feb 21, 2017 - 05:57am PT
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Wow those last two are really cool. Where is that?
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7SacredPools
Trad climber
Ontario, Canada
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Feb 21, 2017 - 08:21pm PT
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Crazy good.
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Michael Browder
Mountain climber
Chamonix, France (Oregon originally)
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Feb 21, 2017 - 09:47pm PT
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I'm one of the converted telemarkers who only does AT now, and really "doesn't care that you tele."
While some of the skiing is impressive, it certainly is not new school, nor is the skier without his technical faults.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Feb 22, 2017 - 06:10am PT
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Regardless of mode let's all be thankful for what's under our boards.....it's been an amazing year here in the Tahoe Sierra.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Feb 22, 2017 - 07:23am PT
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Michael Browder shows us his rigid and crusty mindset. He must be a joy to ride with. It's just a dude ripping the mountain on twin tips having a blast. I bet he's better than you ever were...even in your AT gear. I'll be happy to video Michael Browder so we can critique his technique. Snore.
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Feb 22, 2017 - 07:53am PT
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Charlie, looks like fun conditions!
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Feb 22, 2017 - 02:36pm PT
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Bluebird powder day at Squaw Valley USA
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Feb 22, 2017 - 06:30pm PT
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Holy Cow we've come a long way! I'm glad that I learned on leather and skinny skis and I'm glad that I can still rip KT on a powder day. I'll admit that I parallelamark a lot and also that I have AT envy but I love love love the freedom. Except when I don't.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Feb 22, 2017 - 08:07pm PT
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>Isa is the featured skier in the middle @ 5.12
She has really nice form and technique tradman! Old school skinny skis did rip.
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Feb 22, 2017 - 09:52pm PT
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That Curtis Johns flick rocks! That is way more inspiring than some dude skiing backwards on a groomer. That film (made in 1986) shows telemark skiing (pardon me, not "Telemarking") when it really meant something. I believe the ski industry hastened the irrelevance of telemark skiing with each "improvement" in equipment. It was special in leather boots. Now people rightly ask,"so what"? The plastic boots and wide skis have robbed it of anything exceptional. It is now merely a contrivance. I still like it. It feels good to me, but with the accessability and ease of the new equipment the thrill of minimalism is gone. Like free soloing barefooted, Telemark skiing gave us the magic feeling - when we weren't crashing - of breaking the rules, of stretching the limits of the possible. All that is gone now, and it's no wonder no one cares!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 23, 2017 - 01:48am PT
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I had forgotten how bad the equiptment really was and what geeks we were.....
I went to mad river a few weeks ago and it was mobbed supriseingly I only saw about 15 pinners.. that made me realize that telley is pretty much over. heck seven years ago at Okemo and killington over 50% of the ski patrol was on pins and a good percentage of customers. I hit Killington a month ago on a wed that used to be mobbed with the wed telle crew. Zip. Nada.. its done. everyone got old and switched to AT. Most of the youngsters that do back country are on AT.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 23, 2017 - 01:53am PT
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I am shure Isa is in the race at the end of the movie, she probobly either won or came in 2nd but I did not see her run??
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Feb 23, 2017 - 05:07am PT
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Charlie, I'm jealous of your bluebird powder shots. We've had a lot of powder days but very little blue.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Feb 23, 2017 - 06:59am PT
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Hey Urmas,
Those skinny skis were torture and I'm sure that you ski modern stuff. I'm hearing a lot of old skiers complaining all the time. It is as if they've forgotten that it's just play. Grumpy Old Men
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Feb 23, 2017 - 07:37am PT
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Yes those skinny skis and leather boots were a challenge. That's why it felt so good when everything was perfect and you could link a few turns before crashing. And yes I do use modern gear now. That's the main reason I'm skiing better these days. I don't see what there is to complain about!
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Feb 23, 2017 - 08:12am PT
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I haven't been to Mad River in ages. Last week, I was skiing in Utah, there was a place on one of the lifts, where it went down steeply (IIRC Solitude) and I flashed on a trip down the single chair at MRG when I broke a binding right at the top.
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perswig
climber
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Feb 23, 2017 - 10:50am PT
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^^I remember that ad! Had the poster for a while, even.
Left my left supraspinatus and probably subscapularis tendon at MRG many moons ago. Haven't been back, but what a cool place.
Nick, awesome vid - dude at 2:19-2:24 has some real deep chops. And Isa's hip rotation makes her soooo smooth. Was at the 'Loaf with the pseudo-nephews this weekend for the first time in 2 years on any kinda boards, Crossbows and Vertical STs instead of the tele gear. Took a bit to find my happy place, let me tell ya.
Dale
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AKDOG
Mountain climber
Anchorage, AK
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Feb 23, 2017 - 02:04pm PT
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That Curtis Johns flick rocks! That is way more inspiring than some dude skiing backwards on a groomer. That film (made in 1986) shows telemark skiing (pardon me, not "Telemarking") when it really meant something. I believe the ski industry hastened the irrelevance of telemark skiing with each "improvement" in equipment. It was special in leather boots. Now people rightly ask,"so what"? The plastic boots and wide skis have robbed it of anything exceptional. It is now merely a contrivance. I still like it. It feels good to me, but with the accessability and ease of the new equipment the thrill of minimalism is gone. Like free soloing barefooted, Telemark skiing gave us the magic feeling - when we weren't crashing - of breaking the rules, of stretching the limits of the possible. All that is gone now, and it's no wonder no one cares!
Have to agree with you Urmas, Having learned to Tele on a pair our Europa 99 and Snowfield boot, I embraced many of the changing equipment trends that kept making skiing easier until it just became too heavy compared to an AT set up. On the bright side at least no one wears knee pads on the outside of their pants anymore :-)
Norm the last shot I posted was from Assidake ropeway in Hokkaido. A civilized place, where you can ski powder and then grab a beer from a vending machine.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 23, 2017 - 03:40pm PT
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those skinny super long stiff almost unturnable skies sucked! I have never had modern telle skies but put telle bindings on modern alpine skies and they turn pretty darn good.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 23, 2017 - 04:39pm PT
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Dale. you should see Isa ski on modern telle gear. Unbelievable how crazy she rocks. About 15 years ago at Killington one of the ski patrol supervisors told me that Isa is not just the best tele skier on the mountain, she is the best skier on the mountain. Isa switched to AT last year to give her knees a break. this winter she is teaching Alpine in Leichtenstein.
Isa back in the day Isa on alpine race skiesw/ telle bindings and T2s 2009 Isa's daughter Nina skiing like mom.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Feb 23, 2017 - 05:22pm PT
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Sigh
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 23, 2017 - 05:37pm PT
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Yea but look how stiff the skies are.. Straight as an arrow. look at the shot on the K2 race skies . I took the shot in 09 they were used skies so likly 07 vintage. look how the skies flex and turn..
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 23, 2017 - 05:49pm PT
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Is that one of those doggies that has perfect timeing to cut in on you and make you go heinie over tea kelttle like its a big game? ;)
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 23, 2017 - 06:13pm PT
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He reminds me of Isa's Dog Bo. Bo was a huge wolf looking husky and he went on our XC ski jaunts with us. His favorite game/trick was to run allong behind you, get real close and then cut in and nudge your foot perfectly to send you heinie over tea kettle.. bhe seemed to know the perfect spot to do it. this really steep narrow hill on the way back to the cabin that was a bit treacherous on XC skies. Bo dumped me there a bunch of times... probbly just jealous;)
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Feb 27, 2017 - 07:52am PT
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Venezuelan Adrian Solano competes in a qualifying round at the Nordic world ski championships in Lahti, Finland, in spite of his never before being on snow:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Feb 27, 2017 - 12:54pm PT
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Husky Tele photo
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 27, 2017 - 01:26pm PT
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You gotta get down and Deep to do a real Tele Turn
Like that pro above, Isa, Hooray!
Weigh that back ski by sitting on it
though it's hard on the knees and quads no matter what you do
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Cali
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Feb 27, 2017 - 01:45pm PT
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Nah, there is so much more power and control to be had with a shallow dip. Once I learned that I could ski anything. Before that I just looked cool.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 27, 2017 - 01:49pm PT
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WRONG!!!!
you need to go low for power and control
especially in bad snow
If you're doing a low dip, it's either a low speed slacker turn
or a Fake-a-tele turn
you can see a fake-a-tele turn a mile away, they keep their front leg straight, which means they aren't weighting the back leg and just doing an alpine turn on their front ski and letting the back ski go along for the ride.
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perswig
climber
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Feb 27, 2017 - 02:01pm PT
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Flip Flop, looks like near-breakable crust - ugh!
NICE fall-line form, Craig, and quiet hands. I know I stay lower and sit the rear ski more with skinnys, can fake it more with a larger shovel and more sidecut.
But I kinda suck, so who knows...
Dale
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 27, 2017 - 02:13pm PT
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You can't show it any better than this
she knows how to do a tele turn
once you get it, it seems easier than a alpine turn, except for the muscle thing, bending your legs takes more muscle power
You don't have to go low all the time, but you WILL have to get low once you hit the crap snow or the bumps
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Feb 27, 2017 - 02:21pm PT
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They care if you ARE Tele. Tele Savalas, that is
[youtube=JzPOYDni_FQ&sns=em]
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Feb 27, 2017 - 02:35pm PT
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Oh man. I sure do miss tele. I was never as good as the folks in the pics but I did love it.
I finally to revert to Alpine and some back country skiing all because of an arthritic toe that just wouldn't let me drop my knee. All my attempts to work around were just too tedious.
Thanks for those awesome shares!
Susan-who-can't-Tele-anymore :(
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 27, 2017 - 02:42pm PT
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Isa just floats. she bounces in and out of that possition so fast and light that she claims it does not take any effort.... When i worked at killington people would see us skiing together and always say "saw you guys skiing the other day. Isa looked great!" Yea, I know, I suck......
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Feb 27, 2017 - 02:53pm PT
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though it's hard on the knees and quads no matter what you do
Been doing it for almost 30yrs and I gotta disagree with the above except the quads part. Parallel turns/alpine bindings bother bother my knees at about half day, tele it ain't till the latter half and it is always my quads burning and not my knees. I do leg/knee specific therapy at the gym, fixt-CX and moto-enduro. Also, there are more than one way to turn and I just let my mood/terrain dictate that sh!t...it's hardy the fall-line with so many interesting features around here and fortunately they don't know how to groom!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 27, 2017 - 03:10pm PT
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Telle hurts my knees. i only have telle and nordic gear but I stand up and ski them paralel. it hurts less.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Feb 27, 2017 - 03:26pm PT
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I have friends that say that too and I shoulda added the 'for me' part.
Since I started riding the fixt-CX my right knee that is missing an ACL hardly hurts. It is all about the joint health, even though I might-could use an ACL but it's been about 17yrs since I had it.
Movement execution and regular PT will minimize the pain of it all....
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sempervirens
climber
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Feb 27, 2017 - 06:51pm PT
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Nah, there is so much more power and control to be had with a shallow dip.
I'm gonna agree with Gnome about the above. If you go too low your feet are usually too spread out and your body weight isn't above the middle of the skis. Also it's likely you'll have too much weight on the back ski; in which case you're in the back seat. If you're in the back seat your front ski isn't doing its job, it's unweighted and kinda flailing around, also when in back seat it's difficult to do the next turn cause the weighted tails are sticking into snow and don't want to turn easily, especially on steep slopes. Your weight should be equally distributed on both skis at all times. That's easier said than done, of course, especially in bumps or anytime you're skiing aggressively. Also, if your feet are spread apart too far you risk having the uphill ski crossing behind the downhill foot, I did this yesterday on Scott Chute at Alpine Meadows. Not pretty, but it helped build character. Admittedly, that is just my mistake but it can't happen if I keep my feet under me.
The heel of uphill boot should be below your butt, not way back behind you. Check it out on pp. 10 and 11 of Allen & Mike's Really Coo Tele Tips.
you can see a fake-a-tele turn a mile away, they keep their front leg straight, which means they aren't weighting the back leg and just doing an alpine turn on their front ski and letting the back ski go along for the ride.
I agree with that also. You shouldn't have a straight front leg, and it's common for beginning tele skiers to do that. If you keep that forward pressure of shin on boot it helps keep skis under you. I've been doing lunges, stationary bike, and the invisible chair to help make all this technique possible. I have a ways to go but the strengthening has made a great difference.
Look at photos of Isa and the woman in blue & white. They are often low but their feet are below the butt, and knees are close together. Compare to Craig Fry's photo, which is a cool photo and looks like a great run, and you can see the space between skier's knees. Close that gap and you have more power, better balance, ready to snap into next turn 'cause the uphill ski doesn't have as far forward to travel.
...yeah, I probably got too much time on my hands, ha, ha.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 28, 2017 - 03:14am PT
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jim for the win!
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Feb 28, 2017 - 08:29am PT
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I found AT to be far physically easier but I also blew out both knees with fixed heels so go figger.
I hear this. Man, both! Hope they've gotten stronger after fixing? I'll use my DynaFit sh1taqua for touring and getting around, but if I am on a chair DHing all day, there will be no heel blockage. I parallel more on my NTN than any other binding and even just that little micro-bounce of the heel feels better than blockage. Last year was the first I tried Alpine and the locked heel felt very awkward and I hated the feel of the what I feel is thee most boring turn one can do, reminds me of English cooking, or boogie boarding v. surfing. When I go BC it is almost always easy mellow descending, I do it for the travel, views and solitude; I just want an easy ski for traveling.
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perswig
climber
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Feb 28, 2017 - 10:35am PT
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I just want an easy ski for traveling.
Yep, mobility always seems more 'free' with freeheel, in that I can manage the little kids' yardsales, tuck 'em into a wedge on steep bits, pull them out of tree wells w/o as much rigamarole. I also seemed to skin better with neutral Targas and blown T2s than I seem to do with tech bindings. Go figure.
I need to ski more.
Dale
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 28, 2017 - 03:23pm PT
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skinned the little ski hill near my cabin after work today. perfect corn snow 3 weeks too early but still pretty fun. I was flying down the hill at about my top speed and bambi was flyiing accross the wide open hill at her top speed. very cool. she passed about 20ft in front of me. we both timed it perfectly.
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Feb 28, 2017 - 03:54pm PT
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Look at photos of Isa and the woman in blue & white. They are often low but their feet are below the butt, and knees are close together. Compare to Craig Fry's photo, which is a cool photo and looks like a great run, and you can see the space between skier's knees. Close that gap and you have more power, better balance, ready to snap into next turn 'cause the uphill ski doesn't have as far forward to travel.
I agree with Sempervirens here. Isa is clearly a very powerful skier. She skillfully utilizes a very large range of flexion and extension, without getting overly spread out. That's awesome. I only question how often it is functional to go that low. If the guys dig it, however, more power to her!
If you stay low, you can't project the center of mass very far into the new turn, and if on the other hand you use the full range of flexion and extension, it seems you would be working too hard. A taller stance allows the CM to move aggressively into the new turn, with relatively little effort. I'm all about making it easier these days!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 28, 2017 - 04:12pm PT
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you have to see her in motion to believe it. that mid eightys video does not do her justice . the newer gear and perhaps 30 more years to perfect it... She never did go for the T1s though. Mostly T3s and then T2s for her 50th bday. If its not steep she parelles. when it gets steep she starts the telle short swing and its that deep every turn and I have seen her do top to bottom on Outer Limits in the monster bumps so fast that it looks like an olympic bump skier and if you don't know her you don't even realize that she is on pins untill she gets close. it is insanly smooth. She claims it takes less effort the way she does it......
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Cali
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Feb 28, 2017 - 04:21pm PT
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Craig, I would agree that when I get in trouble I really hunker down. But if I am skiing aggressively, especially in the bumps, knees tight together, pushing hard on both skis and staying fairly shallow is really fast and allows much faster transitioning from one turn to the next. And pull and drive around your poles just like when paralleling.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Yeah, that is Asahidake. Pretty cool spot.
Chicks that wear knee pads on the wrong side of their pants are a (tele) turn on.
Getting that low is not neccesary no matter what gear you have. Stiffer boots equals higher stance equals energy saved. Welcome to 2017.
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WBraun
climber
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How many Dr F's are there here?
Nice style on your boards there shredding on those steep slopes ......
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Old blue Karhu's with Voile bindings. I was always better at the stand-up/balance/3-pin/pseudo parallel than the telemark. Easier on the knees.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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TUA stands for...
'Two a' season, as in 2 pairs per season. I always thought the Valmonte X was their best ski. T-mark was better served by Atomic and other 'Austrian' skis IMHO.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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I bet eh! That would hella suck, Did it break along the angled joint directly underfoot? I never understood that, an engineering mistake on the TUA's behalf. That was where my Toute Niege broke.
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Thanks for the kind and flattering words, New World Order 2!
There are various approaches to Telemark skiing, fortunately. Some folks are very strong and ski amazingly with a lot of up and down, or just low and scissoring. With my background as an Alpine instructor, I simply adapted functional Alpine skiing mechanics to the Telemark. To put my approach into a nutshell; I believe the best skiers are those who can store energy into the skis, and release it at the proper moment. In other words, the equipment works hard so you don't have to.
Wish i could get out with y'all, and compare notes. Talking about it just doesn't get it!
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F
climber
away from the ground
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I believe the best skiers are those who can store energy into the skis, and release it at the proper moment. In other words, the equipment works hard so you don't have to.
Ski fast, stay HIGH...
If your knee is on the ski, you just bottomed out your suspension.
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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That's right, F. If the knee is on the ski there is very little edging (tipping or angulating) possible. Edging creates pressure, and pressure loads up the ski. That's why a taller stance allows the equipment to work better.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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This is a shot I took for Telemark ski magazine of Isa and her daughter Nina. Isa is in the back. you guys can diss her low style all you want but I would bet $$$ that none of you could match her turn for turn free sking and you would definatly get smoked in gates ;) A few weeks ago one of her fellow swiss ski instructors was giving Isa a hard time about haveing an out dated style. She burned him right off the hill. He tried to hang with her for a bit and gave up. Ski school directer saw the whole thing and complemented her in front of everyone ;) extra sweet as she is the oldest instructer in the school.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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DMT, we have similar roots as I suspected....
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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I was part of the leading edge of the new wave tele with phat skis, plastic boots and cable bindings with risers.
Bwahhaha.....ya sure ya were. Fry's world...gag
I'm the real Dr. F not the fake dr f
Muahahaaha...the always fake #realDrF#
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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I only have a couple of photos documenting that I did, indeed, tele ski for a few years. I learned in NH, dialed in 'teli heli's' at Mt Sunapee. Ripped Tuckerman Ravine. Taught freeheel skiing at Steamboat, and quit it all because alpine skiing is better for jumping off of stuff and going upside down. Backflips on tele skis are easy enough in the park, but on the mountain a fixed heel just makes life easier.
My only photos, Mammoth '97. My Crispi Pro Comp boots were the best out there at the time, I think.
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sempervirens
climber
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This is a shot I took for Telemark ski magazine of Isa and her daughter Nina. Isa is in the back. you guys can diss her low style all you want but I would bet $$$ that none of you could match her turn for turn free skiing and you would definitely get smoked in gates ;)
Both skiers in your photo still have their feet under themselves rather than spread apart to front and back. I'm sure Isa can out tele ski me. And there are many times when I fail to achieve the technique that I described above. But what if a great skier can improve their technique and become even better. That would be more cool than beating me in the bumps or gates.
Stand in a lunge position with feet spread wide, front foot far forward, back foot far behind you. Then jump up and change feet in the air. Now imagine doing that with the extra weight of skis on feet and having to turn the tips from pointing to the right of fall line to the left of fall line. Then try it with your knees and feet closer together and your body position higher as has been described above. Which way gives you more power to rise up, turn the skis, and absorb the shock of the next landing?
Snowing heavy here (a lil' way's north of Truckee) but I was too lazy to leave the house at 6:00 am to avoid the Tahoe traffic snarl so just going for a local skip n' stride. And, yeah, still got time on my hands for this chit chat, avoiding my tax return.
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allapah
climber
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Nancy Pfeiffer's 4-point tele formula:
1.) 50% of weight on lead ski, 50% on back ski
2.) Weight on lead ski is evenly distributed on all points of sole of foot
3.) Lead ski and trail ski should be separated by no more than the length of a person's shoulders
4.) Center of gravity always travels up and down parallel to gravity
Looking at number 2, one can see that the heel on the trail ski is going to have to be raised to achieve evenly distributed weight on lead ski. The hard part is to keep 50% of weight on the trail ski. One must push down through the heel of the lead ski while sticking to the formula throughout the turn. It was hard to learn how to stick to #3-- I would always get the skis too far apart.
Nancy gave me this many many years ago and it has served me in good stead, especially when I find myself tellying on those gd super skinny sticks.
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Sounds good, Allapah. I just have one question: as you probably know, gravity acts on a skier's CM in two directions, one parallel to the slope and the other toward the center of the earth. To which direction does #4 refer? I advocate moving the CM perpendicular to the slope, somewhere between the two vectors of gravity.
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allapah
climber
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Center of earth gravity
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Allapah, please see my edited post above. Movement of the CM affects pressure control, but more importantly it initiates edge change, which is essential for a turn to happen. If the CM moves as you suggest, it doesn't change the edge angle. Balance in skiing is dynamic, rather than static. this means that the CM moves outside of the base of support. Every turn involves deliberately losing balance, by moving or falling toward the upcoming turn, before finding that balance again once the edge change has occurred. This is true for all types of skiing on any equipment, even snowboarding. The only exception is in wedge turns, where the base of support is pretty wide and the speed is slow.
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Here are a few.
https://www.youtube.com/user/skiwithurmas
The one about carving clearly shows the CM moving outside the base of support, toward the inside of the turn. This is a good example of dynamic balance. You will notice that the CM moves almost parallel to the slope. In steeper terrain it moves in a path closer to the line to the center of the earth.
Sadly I lost most of the footage that was filmed by TelemarkTips moderator, Mitch Weber (RIP). He and I had a falling out over business, and he never shared many of the videos, which he agreed were mine to keep. Now they are lost forever, I'm sure.
Fortunately I took up filming with West Vane, a local filmmaker. He and I produced an instructional DVD, which is available from
https://www.skiwithurmas.com.
The trailer is included in the youtube sampling.
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Yes, center of mass. It is located in the center of the body in the hip region. You can watch that part of the body move from the inside of one turn to the inside of the next. This is called a crossover move. The CM crosses over the skis from one turn to the next. If it were to move parallel to the pull of gravity toward the earth, there would be no crossover. This move is much more pronounced in a medium to long radius turn, such as demonstrated in my carving video, but is present in shorter turns as well. It is also possible for the feet (and skis) to cross under the CM, but the CM still moves toward the new turn relative to the feet, not straight up.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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I think you should give Lyn Hill some pointers on rock climbing while you are at it ;)
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sempervirens
climber
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trad, whattaya think about the experiment I described though? It makes sense, doesn't it?
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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I don't think about skiing. I just do it....
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Mar 19, 2017 - 08:58pm PT
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Mar 19, 2017 - 09:05pm PT
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He cares.
Shreddy
He called me Shreddy
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Mar 19, 2017 - 11:25pm PT
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I've been skiing tele for almost 30 years. The best tele lessons that I ever received - that pushed me out of the old-fashioned tele technique - were from a tele instructor at Santa Fe in the early 1990s.
The two most important things that I learned from her were (a) proper stance (Holding your CM in the right place), and (b) fast lead changes.
A great drill to find the proper stance is to do a fore-and-aft shuffle with both feet while turning left and right. You can't keep the shuffle going through the turn unless your pelvis is properly positioned forward enough. Once you find it, this is where your pelvis should stay while skiing.
The other thing I hate is when I see tele skiers holding their stance in between turns. This makes the characteristic big S turns across the fall line. You should never hold a static stance, unless you are steady on a traverse or something like that.
Alpine skiers don't hold a stance unless they're beginners doing wedge turns. Alpine skiers make rapid fire turns, and they make narrow snake-like tracks right down the fall line.
Tele skiers can make rapid fire turns, too - if you know how to change leads quickly.
At the end of a right turn, you are on the right (uphill) edge of both skis with the left ski forward. At this point - with your pelvis in proper position - roll both skis onto the left (downhill) edges to start carving on those edges, simultaneously move your CM down into the fall line, and then pull the left ski back (as opposed to moving the right ski forward). This is a super fast lead change, and you can make rapid-fire left and right turns like an alpine skier in the bumps.
A great drill for learning to roll onto your downhill edges is to keep one leg forward at all times (e.g. Right foot forward) and make left and right turns in that fixed stance. Like Urnas said, this involves rolling out of balance dynamically while you're rolling into the next turn. Urmas calls this the mono tele turn.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Mar 20, 2017 - 08:06am PT
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^^Good words and perfectly strung out there Rat; good INFO for all.
A great drill to find the proper stance is to do a fore-and-aft shuffle with both feet while turning left and right. You can't keep the shuffle going through the turn unless your pelvis is properly positioned forward enough. Once you find it, this is where your pelvis should stay while skiing.
I never thought of it like that or considered doing it drill-style. I've worked on reverse tele turns for fun when bored but damn, I gotta go try that!!
I hear ya on the 'stance' when not turning, kinda akin to hanging from muscles instead of your skeleton between moves whilst resting. I've always had to work on flexibility to keep from popping up too much during the lead changes. I'll pop up at times, even when pulling back. A lot of those 'pops' are just for fun, I have to admit. If it ain't fun then why?
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Mar 20, 2017 - 08:34pm PT
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Was out the last couple of days in new to me areas. Herman Gulch and Ruby Gulch
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Mar 21, 2017 - 03:03am PT
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very cool. jack is looking grown up!
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Mar 22, 2017 - 02:27pm PT
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Nobody cares what binding you're on when your just going to die in the alders anyways.....
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Mar 25, 2017 - 07:41pm PT
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Sierra Ledge Rat, You have a good understanding of skiing, and communicate it well.
F, did you go there by choice?!?
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Mar 25, 2017 - 09:29pm PT
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No, not really. We climbed the west face of Mtn X, skied the south side to access the NW side of Mtn Y. By the time we got done with the second descent ( deep trail breaking for 2500 ) the south face of Mtn X (our planned exit) was popping off 12" slabs all over from the sun effect. That left us with waiting for hours for Mtn X to cool off, or thrash and 4x4 down the drainage of Mtn Y. It wasn't the worst alder skiing I've ever done, but we certainly hadn't planned on going out that way, and it wasn't something I'd like to repeat real soon.
Long spring days are awesome. It's nice to be getting some long runs in.
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Mar 27, 2017 - 05:17pm PT
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The recovery in the video is awesome. just making a move like that would put me in the hospital, whether I fell or not!
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Mar 29, 2017 - 02:38pm PT
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Was wondering if I should post this up, as its definitely not tele, and they are not exactly earning their own turns (heli and all). On the other hand, I like the backcountry stoke, and its cool to see African American riders from NYC in the Monashees, etc.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Mar 29, 2017 - 04:03pm PT
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^^^ instant classic outdoor adventure music
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Mar 29, 2017 - 04:41pm PT
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climbed russel and did the 110's on Berthoud after getting rained out of the creek yesterday.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Mar 29, 2017 - 10:41pm PT
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Hmmm,
That video was painful to watch.
But some folks embrace and promote ignorant gapers hyping their consumer experience for whatever reason. Whether they are selling something to the bevy of beaters, or just have more stoke than clue themselves. But, you know, nobody cares.
Waist deep here today for 6 hours. No fu cking snowboard sides slip rap sh#t. Just knee bombs and reggae all day, brah.
YAY!!! Xoxo!
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Mar 30, 2017 - 03:29am PT
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F sounds like a killjoy. Calls people ignorant but can't spell ignorant. Jerkwad
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Mar 30, 2017 - 10:06am PT
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I would doubt you'd think I was a killjoy if you were skiing with me yesterday Flop.
It's great when anybody gets out, anytime, anywhere to push pow. Especially if it's something you don't get to do often.
I think I have a different definition of what "Soul" skiing is than what is shown in that vid.
When I watched it the things that stood out to me were the posing, the statement that sled skiing is "free", and the dude on a swallow tail board riding in what looked like 2" while rocking a selfie stick. IMHO, that mentality is the opposite of soul skiing.
When I think of soul skiing what comes to mind is Dave Johnstons solo car to car ski of Mount Sanford and his poem about coming back to greenery.
http://www.mtnclubak.org/layouts/layout_mca/files/documents/scree_select/jun84.pdf
Or Tall Mike and his lady split boarding their way from Jimbos backyard in Canada all the way back to Alaska, ripping lines along the way. No GoPay me, no Facepalm live updates, no self promotion.
Or my friend Chunk living off of roadkill moose and freezer burned salmon in the semi-remote mountains of Seldovia. Touring hard and skiing big runs everyday totally under the radar and on old beater gear.
But we all have different definitions of what soul is, probably colored by our own experiences.
What's yours?
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Mar 30, 2017 - 10:31am PT
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What's yours?
It only matters to me.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 10, 2017 - 04:06pm PT
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I still do not care if,how,or when.[Click to View YouTube Video]
There is a lot of stuff wrong out there,Telemark skiing is not one of them.
Looking forward to Blackflies......lol.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Apr 10, 2017 - 04:35pm PT
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yesterday
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 10, 2017 - 04:46pm PT
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Nice
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Apr 10, 2017 - 08:28pm PT
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Tradster, Moosiliauke? Looks primo...
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Apr 10, 2017 - 08:56pm PT
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Apr 10, 2017 - 09:01pm PT
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Last week in Italy
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Apr 11, 2017 - 04:04am PT
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Yup. kicked my butt with a head cold.....
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AKDOG
Mountain climber
Anchorage, AK
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Apr 12, 2017 - 03:31pm PT
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Nothing like spring for some after work turns
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Fuzzywuzzy
climber
suspendedhappynation
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Apr 13, 2017 - 10:37am PT
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Lots of beautiful days this season.
I will never forget Adi Yeorg telling us about ski instruction (Allan Bard etc) at Trapps....
"You boys, you can use all the words you know ... and more...
Ya sure, You had better trick them into doing it....much easier"!
He created subtle terrain features that would "force" (gently) the newbie to move their skis without them getting too mental.
Feeling it is the key.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Apr 13, 2017 - 10:50am PT
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Fuzzy, Adi would also tell his students, "Stop looking at your skis, they say the same thing every time, look up."
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Fuzzywuzzy
climber
suspendedhappynation
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Apr 13, 2017 - 11:39pm PT
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YES!!
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Apr 16, 2017 - 12:44pm PT
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Yesterday's tour:
Barrett (still tele's) drops onto the North Bowl of Ralston from the summit:
The Tahoe Sierra is buried:
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 16, 2017 - 01:03pm PT
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Man,........that is something.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Apr 16, 2017 - 01:08pm PT
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Fricking buried! Turns all year!
Edit; Sierra, not ADK.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Apr 16, 2017 - 02:55pm PT
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NICE Charlie! Glad to see you taking advantage of such great coverage. We too are snowrich here in Wyoming. Feels so good.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Apr 16, 2017 - 04:54pm PT
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yesterday. top to bottom 2500vert full coverage still. did end up with a lot of grease on my skins and bases....
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Apr 16, 2017 - 10:45pm PT
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Fukn Love Ralston!
There's a tree protected campsite for 2 that is just perfect right about there
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Apr 17, 2017 - 06:59am PT
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Massive Cornice above Cup Lake, Mt. Ralston:
Camera lens makes us look closer than we are but perhaps still too close!!! Incredible coverage in the Sierra.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Apr 17, 2017 - 07:17am PT
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Man-o-man, that is some crazy cornice travel, just wow.
The Sierra looks so bitchen, y'all be tour'n till August if the cornices hold for ya!
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Apr 17, 2017 - 08:55am PT
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You huck that one Charlie?
Hope you yelled to them they were a bit close!
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Apr 17, 2017 - 09:18am PT
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^^^Ha! Here's where I dropped in Norm:
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Apr 17, 2017 - 06:30pm PT
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Sheez that's big!
Some interesting tracks below your line through the cornice? Dog?
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Apr 17, 2017 - 06:40pm PT
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Chubby looking snowpack there Charlie.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Apr 17, 2017 - 07:29pm PT
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Flip Flop, yep the Red Beast....a fine ski dog of Barrett's.
^^^Awesome glades Wilbeer!!!
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Apr 27, 2017 - 07:21am PT
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Such an awesome year for the skiers of the Sierra, my buddy Barrett M. dropped down the Third Pillar Couloir earlier this week. That sucker has a steep entry eh?
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Things are looking pretty white in the front range this morning. Might have to go for a look on Saturday.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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got out to fern lake in RMNP on Saturday. There was a tremendous amount of avi debris all fanned out at the base of the Dragons tail. Snow balls the size of Volkswagens decided to bail after after skiing the apron.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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May 12, 2017 - 01:39pm PT
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Got up Paiute in the Indian peaks today. there are some sick looking lines up there.
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sempervirens
climber
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May 12, 2017 - 06:47pm PT
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Wilbeer, good article. I kinda agree with all the comments in the article, if that's possible. I have also broken several cables. Telemarking is still fun as hell, though, they forgot to mention that. I tele more than any other skiing, and I'm gonna keep on tele skiing. Still good skiing in Tahoe. :)
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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May 12, 2017 - 07:29pm PT
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Tahoe's going to be good for awhile.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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May 21, 2017 - 04:16pm PT
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Got up to Cameron pass after 2-4 feet fell Thursday and Friday. then took a little float down the river
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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May 22, 2017 - 08:44am PT
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Glad to see folks getting out there having fun! Ski+boat looks like a good novelty day. I was thinking about this last week.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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May 22, 2017 - 12:32pm PT
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Corn factory in full production, awesome skiing in the Southern Sierra now.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - May 22, 2017 - 04:36pm PT
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Good to see great spring skiing,even over here.Killington yesterdayGreat photos up there.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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May 22, 2017 - 04:42pm PT
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Charlie, roughly where in the S Sierra, and at what elevations have you been skiing? The snow was very warm and wet around Tahoe this weekend.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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May 22, 2017 - 05:30pm PT
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We were going to try to climb as well but there was a lot of wet rock after that much snow in what seems to be essentially a dessert.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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May 22, 2017 - 06:30pm PT
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Kunlun_shan, we went down to Virginia Lakes. They have plowed the road from Conway Summit back in to the trail head. What's great is you start at elevation, I think somewhere around 9,700' so it froze the night before each day we skied....awesome corn. Cooler weather returns later in the week, should be great again!!!
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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May 22, 2017 - 10:52pm PT
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Am sorry to hear you are injured, Jim. Not good timing with all the snow. Hopefully you can get rid of the crutches soon, and in time for climbing season.
Thank you for the corn report, Charlie! We'll probably try to get up to Virginia Lakes this Memorial Day weekend. I hope 395 does not flood out with the warnings I'm reading for the Walker River and the warm weather this week. Your photos are a big motivator to get out there :-)
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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May 28, 2017 - 01:33pm PT
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Family headed out of town back to the black hills so have a few days to roam about. It was pouring rain in boulder yesterday and was not sure what to do so I drove up to Brainard Lake to look at camping possibilities. It is a short 3 mile bike ride to the campground which is plowed but they don't open the gate until later in the year. Once there I saw that parts of the campground were melted out so I drove back home to get the bike/ski packing kit together. I drove back up in the pouring rain which thankfully changed to snow by the time I got to the parking lot. It was nice until I got the tent set up but started snowing fairly hard an hour or so later. The storm cleared but others soon followed. I woke up at 3:30 to clear skis. I brewed some coffee and ate some barely edible freeze dried breakfast scramble. I headed out on the bike with the ski kit on the trailer until I was around the Brainard Lake where I started skiing. It is a mile or so to Long Lake where I eventually skied across the frozen lake trying to decide to go big and try to do Apache or do some really nice looking lines much closer. In the end I wussed out and went for the easier option and ended up sking what I think is Niwot Ridge. It was not a complete failure as I got to see a lot of new terrain and skied a nice line back down to Long Lake with about 6 fresh inches of powder. Got some great views of the surrounding terrain on the long trek up to the weather station at the top of Niwot Ridge.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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May 29, 2017 - 08:57pm PT
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Had fun skiing a line during Memorial Day weekend that hasn't been in for the last few years. We started with the north couloir on Dunderberg Peak (middle skyline) and then over to the Green Creek Couloir (shaded line at right).
Great conditions out there right now. I expect we'll be skiing well into July in the Sierra!
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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I am here to post in this very important thread!
tele til you're smelly
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Skied CO Mines Peak today with Jack from Berthoud Pass.It was a bit of an adventure skiing out on 7 mile creek. Also saw my first Bear since moving to CO Jack even caught it on film. Skied up on Corona Pass Tuesday it was kind of a dud but got some great views of some future objectives. North East Face on James.
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Hey Mike,
Will you adopt me?
Thanks,
All of us
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 26, 2017 - 08:30pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]He went to my high school and can tele.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jun 26, 2017 - 10:06pm PT
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got up on trail ridge on Saturday. You can drop into this strip of snow on Sundance mountain which turns into a massive snow field lower down. You can milk about 2300 feet if you go all the way down to Fall River. I was way to early as the two prior days had highs on the 50's and the snow was still frozen. So I did a couple of short laps on the low angle too before dropping into the steep stuff at the bottom. The snow was still quite firm while climbing back to trail ridge and I wished I had taken the crampons I left in the car. It was inverted and the plains were covered in a sea of clouds.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2017 - 06:20pm PT
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You are still skiing over there,really?
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Norm that was late June. Still got in 2000+ feet of ertv. That was my last day. Could have gotten in July pretty easy but you are going to have walk a fair bit with the boards on your back if you want to get in august September and oct
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Dec 19, 2017 - 09:04pm PT
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Aloha kama'aina snowchasers... get out there and send us some vids! Might be too bumpy over the a'a, but the road could be pretty good. If no skis, screw some foot straps on a skim board.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 3, 2018 - 02:53pm PT
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Man ,It is cold over here.......lol
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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What’s wrong with this picture? That's not me
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Hey Wilbeer ! How is the latest weather treating your neck of the woods ? I've received reports from a mutual friend in that neck of the woods (Bano) of 10-12" of powder and 12 degrees F
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Deep hero pow and pretty scenery is abundant right now.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2018 - 03:09pm PT
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Nice F
It has been cold,but it loosened up today, 24.
Harry,a friend of mine talked with Bano,hardly seen him since his wedding,lol.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jan 15, 2018 - 02:33pm PT
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 16, 2018 - 05:21am PT
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I will be there in March, Mike,thanks for the stoke.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jan 17, 2018 - 03:19pm PT
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Wilber where are you skiing when you come out?it was pretty fun on Red Mountain Pass last weekend but everyone needs more snow. Berthoud is doing OK but nothing compared to the last two winters.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2018 - 03:05pm PT
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I am looking at Buff Pass,maybe in to Never Summer,end of March,seeing friends in Ned,then on to the Boat.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Jan 26, 2018 - 10:02pm PT
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^^^
Nobody cares.
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Bargainhunter
climber
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Jan 26, 2018 - 11:47pm PT
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Just got a pair of 200cm Glittertinds in the mail! I'm going back to skinny for the hills and dales, as my Epochs were feeling a bit too wide and modern and alpine-like. Going to mount some Voile cable traverse 3-pins and pair them up with an $8 pair of basically new leather Alico lace-up 75mm tele boots from the Gear Xchange! Psyched to get retro cross country downhill ŕ la (au?) Steve Barnett. Thank you for not caring. I'll show myself out now...
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Jan 27, 2018 - 09:16pm PT
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^^^ sweet post brah!!!!!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2018 - 10:47am PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
Nice Swellyman,especially if there is two of em.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Feb 11, 2018 - 06:07pm PT
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Finally got a decent storm when I was off.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 11, 2018 - 07:15pm PT
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does XC skis count?
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Feb 16, 2018 - 03:23pm PT
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got out on Berthoud last night and today.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Feb 17, 2018 - 02:24pm PT
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^^^Nice!!!
I suppose this means skiers using “Hippy Sticks” should use other door....
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Feb 17, 2018 - 02:49pm PT
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Big dump in the Talkeetnas left a tempting surface and some touchy conditions.
Some of the best quality pow of th season. Most of the instabilities were manageable, although one party yesterday got pushed around and had a burial while skinning.
Have fun, dont do anything stupid.... but if you do, handle it well.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Feb 17, 2018 - 05:19pm PT
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Charlie D.
There was a sign like that on the front door of the Fairview Inn in Talkeetna. Being an obedient hippie, I went to the back door.
It was locked.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Feb 17, 2018 - 05:52pm PT
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Malemute....now that’s funny, “why can’t they just stay in the woods where they belong?” LMFAO!!!
Sierra LR, think I found that sign in Bozeman....anyway if you find yourself out this way give me a shout, you can use the front door.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Feb 18, 2018 - 07:25am PT
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Got a nice 8 inch powder day in on Friday.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Feb 18, 2018 - 08:00am PT
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Mike m.....really nice, lucky you.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Feb 26, 2018 - 01:11pm PT
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I wasn't free heeling, but I did do some skiing in Italy a couple of weeks ago. Here I am heading into Valtournenche where we were staying after a long day. We had also skied into Zermatt Switzerland the day before.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Feb 26, 2018 - 07:22pm PT
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Got out to allenspark where we skied a 7 mile round trip and gained about 2500ft. Got some nice fresh turns in while hiking a previously unknown to me snow cat track. Could have gained another 1000 ft to the summit of 12000 ft peak from looking at google earth. Quite a good sized hill for CO and this one has easy access from boulder. Start fairly low at 8500ft. Seemed to have good snow which is rare in the front range it seems. Also this was very protected from the wind as it was almost all in the trees. The wind was howling with gusts well over 50 mph. Most of the other places I have skied in the front range can be very affected by the wind.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 26, 2018 - 08:01pm PT
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climber
away from the ground
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Feb 26, 2018 - 09:06pm PT
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Shovel, ski. Shovel, ski. Shovel, ski. Fix 3 broken buckles with bailing wire and zip ties.
Shovel, ski.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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I had to go second but thankfully she left me some room.
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Looks great Norm. Could it be fluff on crust? I love Teton country.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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we got nothing left here in the northeast :(
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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I got a feeling we are just getting started out here. Of course if is around 60 for the next few days.
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Gunks Ray
Trad climber
Gunks
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Charlie D
how do you like your Dynastar Mythics that you posted a picture of earlier in this thread, I have a pair of them mounted Tele with the new Meidjo Tele binding, Dynafit style toes, NTN claw underfoot, settable release, brakes, and light weight, best Tele binding I've used by far. I'm heading out to CO late in March for some mixed touring and resort skiing. Contrary to popular belief there are some great new bindings coming out now in Tele.
Scarpa is coming out with new Tele boots, but it still over a year away.
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Charlie, your Powder article is a year old! Much of it may be true, but not the statement that the number of Telemark skiers will never increase! One day some young punks are going to wow everybody by launching down some sick slope on light boots and skinny skis, and the cycle will start all over again!
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Gunks Ray, the Mythics are an awesome ski, a little skinny underfoot which is great for longer tours. Nice side cut for some good turning....that said I don’t think I’ve ever owned a pair of skis I didn’t enjoy!!!
Urmas, oh keeper of the flame....you speak the truth, we will begin again from where we started....perhaps with me just in spirit to bear witness. I’ll give you a shout when in town next month.
All, So great to have a big Pacific front on top of us here in the Sierra tonight, enjoy the new snow.....off to Bozeman in the morning for some more fun...berg heil!!!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2018 - 03:42pm PT
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Great page right here. Ghost where are you going with 90 lbs. Good to see Duff and Norm.
Had to work today but,getting after it in the morning.
Nor’easter and still snowing.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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I have cut many miles of turns and still have yet to clamp my heel down.
Free your heels and your ass will follow!
The other folks at the areas would always look at my snow encrusted ass and ask where the powder was and I would reply right here and spread my arms. LOL
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Charlie, it would be an honor to ski with you. Don't be a stranger!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2018 - 05:30pm PT
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What a great couple of days in the woods......man.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Absolutely blower and deep in the Talkeetna Mountains right now.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2018 - 06:21am PT
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Nice,Just when I thought we have good conditions....... Well done F
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Mar 11, 2018 - 08:30pm PT
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skied south of RMNP Today got a few good turns in.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Mar 12, 2018 - 09:42am PT
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Spotted these old boards and boots in the Griz, Bridger Bowl MT. Got to love the Griz and what was a state of the art ski back in the day.....I’ve never had a ski I didn’t like :^)
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Mar 12, 2018 - 10:02am PT
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Nice Photos people! TFPU!
another couple from Italy last month. Pasta slopeside.
and skiing into Zermatt Switzerland from the Italian side
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The Lisa
Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
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Mar 12, 2018 - 10:18am PT
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The goods are in the woods here in New England.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Mar 16, 2018 - 07:04pm PT
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Mar 16, 2018 - 07:05pm PT
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Mar 18, 2018 - 03:33pm PT
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Skied Saint Vrain today and ran into a pretty strong snow storm just as we were toping out.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Mar 24, 2018 - 06:56pm PT
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^^^that kid rips!!! You've taught him well, good job dad.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Mar 24, 2018 - 09:14pm PT
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You say the nicest things. I'm a proud proud papa. He's 8
And today was stupid good at the late opening at Shirley Lake
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Mar 25, 2018 - 03:51pm PT
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That's awesome. He's a little ripper
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Mar 26, 2018 - 09:55am PT
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Our local fun zone yesterday, what great fun. My buddy, “Did I ever tell you how much I like skiing?” - me, “yes every time we go”. BTW those north facing hemlocks above 9,000’ was a slice of heaven yesterday in the Tahoe Sierra.....cold and light just the way you like it.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2018 - 06:03pm PT
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The 4easter powder is just running down.....
How is the snow in Colorado?We are looking to pull the trigger on going.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Sep 17, 2018 - 07:31am PT
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2018 - 04:13am PT
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That is cool^^^^^^
Looks like I know what I am doing today
Nor’easter,man.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Nov 18, 2018 - 02:10pm PT
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made a few turns on 4 inchesbif fresh this morning above Ned.
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perswig
climber
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Nov 18, 2018 - 02:55pm PT
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Get some, Wilbeer!
Dale
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Nov 18, 2018 - 06:34pm PT
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Finally some good news, game changer come Wednesday for the Tahoe Sierra.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Nov 20, 2018 - 09:32am PT
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Howdy, Nobody here...
Anybody here on NTN? If so, any words of wisdom when it comes to binding choices and why one over the other?
I have Freerides and am considering Outlaws. I don't have a lot of days on the Freerides but they feel mechanical to me and have heard that the Outlaws force the boot to flex more at the ball of the foot....
I have TX-Comp boots(no tech holes) and plan on only using this set-up on area as my skis are Nordica Enforcers, so my set-up is heavy, just like I like it for area/sidecountry slacker skiing.
I'll get my 'tech' on next year after this year's tech goes on sale!
Thanks and Happy Turnsgiving
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Nov 20, 2018 - 04:53pm PT
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my brand new skies on their maiden voyage a few days ago.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Nov 25, 2018 - 05:33pm PT
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Skied the face in the sunlight after a convoluted approach.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Nov 26, 2018 - 05:16am PT
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First time out this season. Felt good to slide around again.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2018 - 12:34pm PT
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Could not agree more, Norm.
Good to see some early season snow!
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slidingmike
climber
CA
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Nov 27, 2018 - 01:05pm PT
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Cragar,
Moving from the Freerides to Outlaw X is pretty easy skiing-wise, but getting in & out quickly & efficiently will be the hard part, especially if you add brakes. Step-in doesn't work so well unless you're on a really flat surface, and getting out can be grabby as well. But I do like the way they ski. Almost as nice as the Meidjos (which may not be quite beefy enough for heavy resort use).
Cheers,
Mike
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Nov 27, 2018 - 06:19pm PT
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I was the only pinner in the skin tracks... all AT and split boards.. Nobody cared.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Got out for a couple of days in the indian peaks last week. Got to ski some really nice powder but the runs were short with a fair bit of walking to get to it.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2018 - 04:49pm PT
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A friend sent me this ,Vermont,today.
Man
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perswig
climber
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^^
Damn.
Just ..... damn.
Dale
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Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
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Best November I can remember.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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^^^enjoy Rick!!!
We’ve had a great start in the Tahoe Sierra as well - worth celebrating....
Yesterday at Bridger Bowl’s Grizzly I spotted this....”everyone cares that I tele”. I don’t anymore, I’ve gone AT (After Tele). :^)
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Capt.
climber
some eastside hovel
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^^^ Yeah Montana!! Mammoth hasn't had the best opener but I aint complaining' .
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Dec 10, 2018 - 04:23am PT
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Charlie, looks like you’re back at B. Bowl. Were you here for the cold streak?
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Dec 10, 2018 - 04:54am PT
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Happy, Got here late last week. Great skiing despite the lack of new snow. BB is awesome, chasing my grandkids down it’s gullies and thru the trees is such great fun. Heading home today. I’ll be back early Feb, I’ll buy you a beer at the Griz to toast being skiers!
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Dec 10, 2018 - 05:03am PT
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Slow very cold start here in Wyoming. But if you get above the inversion there is some sun and even some decent snow to be had.
Charlie and Donny we should ski together sometime.
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Dec 10, 2018 - 05:07am PT
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Thanks Charlie, hully gully, where kid skis rule. Drop a note in Feb. blackwerk7atgmail
Norm, just saw your post. Getting together would be fun. My skiing been limited the past few winters to xc shuffling about Hyalite as my replacement knee is failing badly. Now scheduled for “complex TKA revision surgery” mid-feb. where the glued in device now there gets removed then replaced with a geriatric version with a limited life...still struggling with the plan.
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Capt.
climber
some eastside hovel
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Dec 10, 2018 - 05:19am PT
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Happy- We actually have met briefly before. J Mullins is good friend of mine. I believe you were his neighbor when we met. He lived with Deanne when you guys were neighbors. The Kind Band days. Anyway, sorry for the thread drift.
Kirk
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Dec 10, 2018 - 05:29am PT
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got out to butler gultch yesterday.
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Dec 10, 2018 - 05:35am PT
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Kirk, thanks for the memory. Fun times in Boz back then...
Mike, I always enjoy your posts. You get after it, and love your energy!
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Gunks Ray
Trad climber
Gunks
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Dec 10, 2018 - 12:37pm PT
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Howdy, Nobody here...
Anybody here on NTN? If so, any words of wisdom when it comes to binding choices and why one over the other?
I have Freerides and am considering Outlaws. I don't have a lot of days on the Freerides but they feel mechanical to me and have heard that the Outlaws force the boot to flex more at the ball of the foot....
I have TX-Comp boots(no tech holes) and plan on only using this set-up on area as my skis are Nordica Enforcers, so my set-up is heavy, just like I like it for area/sidecountry slacker skiing.
I'll get my 'tech' on next year after this year's tech goes on sale!
Thanks and Happy Turnsgiving
Cragar
I'm a long time NTN skier, I have both Freerides and Freedoms, but if you are looking at switching from Freerides, and you do at least some touring, I would really really encourage you to look at the Meidjo, hands down, by FAR, the best skiing, best feeling, and safest Tele binding I have ever used, and I go back to the very early 80's on Tele.
I use the Meidjo binding on a pair of Dynastar Mythic 97 skis. Last spring I joined friends in Co. on what was supposed to be a mostly touring trip and ended up skiing Mary Jane/Winter Park 3 days Steamboat 2 days and 4 days of touring around Berthoud pass and RMNP, the Meidjo 2.1, the latest version handle it all beautifully. I have pounded them on ski area bump runs without problem.
I have 3 days in so far this season, my season was delayed by a late Nov. bouldering trip to Bishop. I have 1 day each on the Freerides, Freedoms, and Meidjos, the Meidjos just pain blows the Rotte bindings away.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Dec 10, 2018 - 01:55pm PT
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What it is Gunks?!
Man, thanks for the info, I appreciate it but damnit, I already have the Freedumbs and I have TX comps, so no tech tips this year. I have 2 very different feet and rely on some fairly modded boots to accommodate my funky feet. I will be looking closer at the meidjos in the future..
I do tour and have some AT light stuff for longer stroll days and I will just slog my NTN stuff(Nordica Enforcer 100) for the tours off area. Some our best tours go off area into the R-snake wilderness and the Flathead.
RE: release, would you say the Meidjo is better than the Rotte's?
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Gunks Ray
Trad climber
Gunks
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Dec 11, 2018 - 03:11pm PT
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The release is indeed why I say that the Meidjo is safer than almost all other Tele bindings, including the other NTN variants.The Meidjo has a true adjustable release at the second heel, and because of the Tech Toes up front can release there as well. I broke my ankle skiing NTN Freerides 5 years ago doing jump turns down a steep run with a real funky snow conditions. I didn't fall and break it, I buried the tip in some heavy mank while I was still rotating in my jump and snap went the ankle, no hint of release.
I have released 3 times now in 3 seasons skiing the Meido, all no fuss, just click and the ski was off.
I much prefer release bindings in the backcountry, number 1 reason is in case of avalanche, and number 2 is catching a hidden object in deep snow in unknown terrain.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Dec 11, 2018 - 05:06pm PT
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I much prefer release bindings in the backcountry, number 1 reason is in case of avalanche
Yup, that was the main reason I switched to AT. Figured my luck was going to run out at some point. I had a difficult time removing my tele boots from my bindings at the end of the day, and they were NOT going to come off in an avalanche.
The Meidjos look pretty cool!
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edit - my boots could certainly get ripped off in an avalanche!
I'd prefer my bindings to release 1st.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Dec 12, 2018 - 07:11am PT
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Thanks again GunksRay!
Man, the reason I went NTN was for release. I bought my stuff 2 years ago and got a 'deal' on Freedoms and TX Comps. I wonder if I could just put my custom Intuition liner and foot bed in a TX Pro with the same size shell? I know they are a softer boot but for the release and since I am hearing the Meidjo skis and releases better I might could try it!
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Dec 12, 2018 - 08:45am PT
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+1 for the Meidjo!
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Gunks Ray
Trad climber
Gunks
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Dec 12, 2018 - 08:22pm PT
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Cragar,
There is no difference between the TX Comp and the TX Pro except the stiffness of the plastic, the size, shape, and fit are exaactly the same, so unless you had the Comp shells punched or otherwise modified the liners should work just fine in the TX Pros. I have both and switch liners on a regular basis, although I much prefere the TX Pro, I like softer boots.
As a conterpoint, my wife has successfully released from her NTN bindings a couple of times with no problem, but she also sprained her ACL when they didn’t. I have heard a lot of good reports on the 22 Designs NTN bindings and how well they ski, I’m just scared off because of the lack of release.
I swapped TX Comp shells for TX Pro shells a number of years ago on the earnyourturns.com forum, Lott’s a good info there on tele stuff.
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Gunks Ray
Trad climber
Gunks
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Dec 12, 2018 - 08:27pm PT
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+1 for the Meidjo!
Urmas I am shocked!!! I thought you were firmly in the NEVER NTN crowd! The Meidjo is a really special binding though.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Dec 17, 2018 - 06:50pm PT
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I cant believe any of those guys are on film. Shoulda called it "But We're French"
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Dec 19, 2018 - 04:25pm PT
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^^^yep best to take what you would need for a night out. A light weight bevy sack + as my buddy calls his “femur jacket” is not a bad idea. Not that you would survive a night out with a broken femur but it gets you thinking about a wrenched knee miles from the trail head. Never know what cards are going to be dealt on any given day.
Safe travels and have fun this winter!!!
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Urmas
Social climber
Sierra Eastside
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Dec 19, 2018 - 06:24pm PT
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Gunks Ray: In the words of Miles Davis,"Everybody's gotta change!"
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Dec 27, 2018 - 07:09pm PT
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You got to love a boarder who doesn’t boot trash a skin track :^) (I understand this took some signage but it finally caught on).......
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Dec 28, 2018 - 12:10am PT
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You got to love a boarder who doesn’t boot trash a skin track
That's 'cause I've happily killed and buried all the snowboarders who had that nasty habit.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Dec 28, 2018 - 06:22am PT
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jack and I got out for a few turns np by Ned. On caribou rd.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2018 - 09:00am PT
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Mike that looks great,thanks for all your contributions here ,
All of you!
Peace in the new year,wilbeer
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Dec 31, 2018 - 04:55pm PT
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its a cold New Year’s Eve up on Berthoud today. Hope everyone has a happy new year.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Dec 31, 2018 - 05:46pm PT
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Doug Thompson telling stories at about 25:00.
Rippy New Year, Tele Bros and Tele Babes
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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^^^ good one!onewheel
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climber
away from the ground
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2019 - 02:33pm PT
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F ,you put up some great shots,man. Thanks.
We finally got 3-4 inches,first snow since November.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 13, 2019 - 03:11pm PT
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Did a mini traverse today with a nice 3400 foot run at the end.[photoid=549303]
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Jan 13, 2019 - 05:02pm PT
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Looks nice, lucky norm and Lorna!
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jan 15, 2019 - 09:38am PT
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I just hope this hits us as advertised....
Not that we’ve been seriously lacking in the Tahoe Sierra this season but a big Pacific dump would be helpful to fill in the rest of it.....
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 15, 2019 - 02:56pm PT
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Bring it on eh Charlie?
Pathetic start to our snowpack. I'm not even sure what to wish for right now. The dragon is lurking down there just waiting to be released. Which it certainly will with a big dump.
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climber
away from the ground
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Jan 15, 2019 - 03:03pm PT
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 19, 2019 - 04:59am PT
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Jan 19, 2019 - 06:44am PT
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Outlaw X and Enforcer100 have been a perfect combo for me so far. I didn't jive with the Freedoms and after 6 or so days on the Outlaws I'm thankful to be back on active bindings. Meidjo will be next once I find the boots and skis to apply to both sides. I like the TX Comps but will try Crispi WCs and I might try my T-Stix 96 since I dig their traditional ways and I already have them.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jan 20, 2019 - 09:46am PT
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Finally a policy we can all agree with (I think).
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 20, 2019 - 01:42pm PT
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I was the only pinhead that I saw today. All split boards and AT. Snow was much heavier than the cold temps would have suggested... must have been windy last night.. These oldish guys were on their 3rd run and blasted by me like a freight train
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2019 - 02:01pm PT
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Totally agree with you tradman,we had 20 inches and 5 degree temps,the snow was slow and heavy.
Not a complaint,lol.
You have to watch out for us old guys. Lol.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 20, 2019 - 02:11pm PT
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that crew was a bunch of intense dudes with Euro accents. Likely bike racers or some other strange euro sh#t going on...
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 20, 2019 - 02:37pm PT
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Skiers are a strange bunch. My boots suck, my Skies suck, the snow is heavy, wind packed and kind of sucks. My legs are weak from yesterdays 800ft of ice soloing and climbing a mountain. It took me 1.5 hours to skin up and my legs are weak from that. I am in absolute survival mode skiing down. Isa would have laughed herself silly at my antics to stay upright and these folks skinning up are Hooting at me like I am having the run of the century.. Likely just trying to convince themselves that all the effort of skinning up is going to yield them an epic run......
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 20, 2019 - 03:27pm PT
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Wait just a minute! An ice climber calling skiers a strange bunch??
Find a spot where the sun doesn’t ever shine on the coldest day of the year. Put on a bunch of pointy things, climb up, get the screaming barfies, get squirted with water and ice chunks, cut your nose so it drips all over your $400 jacket, soak your gloves, screaming barfies again, fuk! Then end your pitch and shiver while your partner pummels you with ice blocks. Yeah skiers are pretty weird, riiiight.
I have to admit ice climbing is fun. But skiing...when it’s good.it’s as good as sex.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2019 - 03:28pm PT
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Another great day ,above ground and arranging another day in my superb skin tracks.
It’s all Epic.
You must realize that your area is great skiing,I have met quite the variety of folks in Vermont,there is good reason.
Easy there Norm, I love ice climbing ,lol,it is all we have over here.
You are right though.
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John M
climber
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Jan 20, 2019 - 03:29pm PT
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too funny Norm..
lots of great picts on this thread.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 20, 2019 - 03:36pm PT
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Nice one Norm :) there must be something to that ice climbing thing because somehow I have talked Isa into ice climbing on quite a few powder days . Do you know our friend Steve Glen from Dubois? back country skier and climber.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2019 - 03:58pm PT
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"Find a spot where the sun doesn’t ever shine on the coldest day of the year"
Cracking me up.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 20, 2019 - 04:06pm PT
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When I was young I used to ice climb on powder days. All my friends thought I was dumb. Now that I’m older I see that I was dumb.
Tradman, don’t know your friend.
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climber
away from the ground
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Jan 20, 2019 - 09:16pm PT
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Jan 21, 2019 - 04:54am PT
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I love your mountains F
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2019 - 07:22am PT
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Norm,do you ever run into a man named Fred Foster,he lives in Driggs?
He is from Saranac Lake , I skied with him a bit over here, I know he’s been skiing around the BC over there for awhile now.
Great skier ,showed me around the Dacks and completely humiliated me ,skiing with him.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jan 24, 2019 - 06:28am PT
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Our neighborhood playground fully opened earlier this week after the latest storm cycle.....the kids are happy.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 24, 2019 - 06:37am PT
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raining cats and dogs right now... Supposed to freeze up hard tonight. Should be great for the ice :)
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jan 28, 2019 - 06:54am PT
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Have skis will (be) travel(ing)
The quiver:
Resort/powder - BD Boundry Pro
Resort/all mountain - Volkl Mantra
Backcountry - BD Helio 105
XC skis - Fischer Touring Crowns
The context
Having been worked like a “rented mule” for 47 years, 37 of which in my own business in the design/construction industry I finally pulled the plug. I’m heading out this Wednesday on a Intermountain West and British Columbia ski road trip with no end date.
The plan
I’ll be traveling to the Teton’s and skiing there with old and new friends before heading North to Bozeman and Cooke City doing pretty much the same thing along with family thrown in. I’ll be then heading to Missoula to ski for a few full credit days with my buddy, you may recognize his rig:
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I’ll leave Missoula and will head North to White Fish and then on up into Canada. I plan on hitting the resorts and side country of Nelson, Rossland, Revelstoke, Kicking Horse and of course the backcountry of the one and only Rogers Pass:
The deal
We can all appreciate particularly as back country skiers local knowledge and expertise helps keep one out of trouble, unlike my first trip to Rogers where we found ourselves in a loaded gun barrel:
Beyond Missoula I’ll be on my own for the most part until I arrive at Rogers Pass where I’ve got a buddy and guide to show me the goods. So the environs around White Fish, Nelson, Rossland and Revelstoke I could use some beta or perhaps a willing local. I’m not a blogger just “a skier that climbs” as opposed to a climber that skis.....I respect this ethic:
Anyway beta for the places I mentioned is appreciated. If you see me on the road say hello and if you bust a skin track for an old man it’s an open bar tab at the watering hole of your choice:
Berg Heil,
Charlie D.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Jan 28, 2019 - 07:23am PT
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From one stolen mule to another, git some!
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Jan 28, 2019 - 08:01am PT
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Sounds like a plan to get after Charlie! Give a call 406-570-2571 when in Boz, Donnie
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Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
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Jan 28, 2019 - 09:00am PT
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Charlie,
Enjoy the well-earned, dream trip!
Having an excellent season here in Colorado. We'll leave the light on for you if you can detour a bit this way.
For those he might meet up with on the road, I've had the pleasure of sliding on snow with Charlie and can tell you that he's a charger.
Rick
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Jan 28, 2019 - 10:13am PT
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For Nelson and RossVegas, talk to Mark @ the Sacred Ride in Nelson. He is a keener and his knowledge and energy is second to none! Typical awesome and nice Cannuck that is a damn fine skier and bike rider and trail devo'r.
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Jack Beard
Mountain climber
Kalispell, MT
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Jan 28, 2019 - 12:56pm PT
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Hi Norm. right on about ice, except when it's like a powder day!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2019 - 03:18pm PT
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Congrats Charlie,man,a great way to escape serfdom.
Keep us posted,Montana right now has to be going off.
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Oldfattradguy2
Trad climber
Here and there
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Jan 28, 2019 - 05:17pm PT
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Good luck Charlie!
If you wind up near McCall feel free to look me up, we’ve been having a good winter with lots of powder and stable snow! Although warm now Limited to afternoon and weekends since the trump ski team has been recalled
I 2nd Mark at the scared ride, been years since I seen him but useful place for beta.
If skiing kooteney pass and staying in a motel, the creston side is cheaper
I think the beginner ticket at whitewater is the deal for access to 5mile and Ymir
Be prepared for a shitty drive to Rogers from either side and take the test online before you go
Ps,
Hey happy cowboy, I work with your sister, small world......
Todd
Swutbcski @ Gmail
Not my main email but I will see it.
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Happy Cowboy
Social climber
Boz MT
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Jan 29, 2019 - 08:45am PT
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Todd, when you mentioned McCall I thought of my sister, Al and their BC boys! You’ve good advice for Charlie
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Jan 29, 2019 - 09:05am PT
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Wilbeer, it was last week but since Canada won't build 'that' wall, the Arctic Caravan has made its way into MT and is ruining our snowpack and general well-being
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jan 31, 2019 - 05:12pm PT
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Thanks all, I’ll look Mark up in Nelson....Donnie I’ll give you a shout when I get to Bozeman next week and Todd I may just take you up on that if I find myself heading home in your direction. Looks like new snow is on the way!!!
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Jan 31, 2019 - 06:12pm PT
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Jan 31, 2019 - 06:44pm PT
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^^^^^
Made my day
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F
climber
away from the ground
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Feb 28, 2019 - 09:48pm PT
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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I just got back to the Sierra this week after an extended road trip. I had a blast and enjoyed skiing the back, side and front country of Wyoming, Montana, British Columbia and Alberta over the 4+ weeks I was gone. Great fun skiing with Norm and Lorna on Teton Pass and meeting up with Donnie (Happy Cowboy) at the Bozone and hearing of days gone by there in Wyoming and Montana. Funny too hearing Norm ask, “where did all these young people come from?”
I was somewhat regretful having missed all of Feb’s amazing storm cycle in the Tahoe Sierra, my wife kept track - an unbelievable 52” of snow PLUS 17.5” of rain on top of it at 3,000 ft here in Camino.
Of course my ski buddies back in California would send me photos and claim the only rock showing in the Sierra is the top of El Cap and Half Dome.
Regardless I sure enjoyed the great snow of the Intermountain West and Canada and the many great new and old friends along the trail, enjoy the pictures and the rest of this season.
Berg Heil,
Charlie D.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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I see some of the bowl and some adjacent BC to the bowl in a couple pics in that collection. BTW, nice collection!!
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splitclimber
climber
Sonoma County
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Awesome Charlie. Welcome back.
With a trip like that, I wouldn't feel too bad for missing February in CA.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Mar 10, 2019 - 05:31pm PT
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25 years ago. SuperComps were the key to Happiness. In those days, we felt like we were the only ones in the whole snowy world. We ripped that chute again and again until the stars came out.
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climber
away from the ground
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Mar 11, 2019 - 09:12am PT
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Indeed, the nostalgia of some for their glory days long in the past is high.
Meanwhile, last week...
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Mar 11, 2019 - 04:10pm PT
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Isa made the switch to AT. Must be getting old... :) No ski tour with Isa is complete without bread, cheese and chocolate Did not have a real camera with me so no good ski shots... but its the east so lots of bark eating involved....
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Mar 11, 2019 - 05:11pm PT
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tiny dynafit??
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2019 - 05:51pm PT
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Charlie that is a slideshow for the ages ,man.
Great photos all around .
Our season is winding down over here and the west is cranking. We still should have a good spring season. I think you folks will be skiing in the summer,for sure.
Tradman ,does Isa have any sisters that ski?😀Last day grooming,I think.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Mar 12, 2019 - 06:21am PT
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Just got back from a great hut trip in B.C. Unlimited vis most days, great snow and pretty darn safe avy conditions made for a great trip. The hut a, beer, and company was good also.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Mar 12, 2019 - 06:22am PT
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Mar 12, 2019 - 06:24am PT
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Mar 12, 2019 - 06:25am PT
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Mar 12, 2019 - 06:27am PT
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Mar 12, 2019 - 06:28am PT
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Mar 12, 2019 - 06:30am PT
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Nice to see all you regulars that follow this thread have been getting out there enjoying the sweet fruits of winter. Keep up the stoke.
Charlie we'll be heading your way late April. Can't wait. Norm
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Mar 12, 2019 - 07:21pm PT
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A great day yesterday, good to be home....
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Mar 12, 2019 - 07:56pm PT
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Chugach
Trad climber
Vermont
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Mar 17, 2019 - 06:29am PT
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Great photos.
Hey, where is tele still strong? Apparently not in BC or Europe, definitely still strong here in Vermont but less so in ADKs. Seems to have declined in popularity in AK over the last 20 years. Strong in West Virginia, if that matters.
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climber
away from the ground
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Mar 17, 2019 - 05:02pm PT
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^^^
That was pretty rad.
We’ve been getting pounded on for the last week by a series of low pressure that are very precipitous to say the least. Since Wednesday, (not counting the 3’ we got the days previous to that), there has been 10” plus SWE.
Translation, thank jebus rain line is around 1500, or we would be full zombie apocalypse around here.
Still coming down for another 5 days it looks like.
If this was California people would be dying and Dingus would be doing a 300 picture TR. Most folks here are just stoked to get the dog sh#t washed out of the yard.
Lift skiings been pretty good hot pow everyday, avy danger super pegged, German heli skiers are crying in their pints about not flying.
Nothing like March in Alaska.
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climber
away from the ground
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Mar 20, 2019 - 03:17pm PT
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YGD, if you ski with All Points North. 5 skiers caught. No fatality.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Mar 21, 2019 - 10:26am PT
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^^^Yikes!!!
Reminds me of what Winston Churchill famously said, “There is nothing more exhilarating than being shot at and missed.”
Awesome looking terrain you go there F
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climber
away from the ground
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Mar 21, 2019 - 11:02am PT
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Not my pics, not my terrain. Never skied around Cordova.
However, yesterday in the Talkeetnas....
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Mar 21, 2019 - 02:22pm PT
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That Thovex parody is awesome
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Mar 21, 2019 - 02:52pm PT
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Nice F. Looks like some awesome terrain you got at hand
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Mar 25, 2019 - 05:48pm PT
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too much snow to ice climb this weekend. totally killed me...
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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Apr 19, 2019 - 01:35am PT
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Once I teleported and another time I
had a telegraphic communication.
Then I dropped a knee and freed
a heel. There was white frosty stuff
going over my head and it
was alright.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Apr 27, 2019 - 02:42pm PT
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Apr 27, 2019 - 11:38pm PT
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Might be a good day if you get this coffee cup to start it off with.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Apr 29, 2019 - 06:27pm PT
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Jim B
I watch the Sochi video.
Someone taught me rapid tele transitions for rapid-fire turns, instead of the old big, wide tele turns that you always see.
The GS skier on that video described the same transitions that I have using on tele for 20 years.
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Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
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May 16, 2019 - 07:39am PT
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Beautiful day out yesterday, corn harvesting with Ed.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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May 26, 2019 - 04:12pm PT
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AKDOG
Mountain climber
Anchorage, AK
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May 26, 2019 - 05:13pm PT
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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May 26, 2019 - 08:05pm PT
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Nice pipe!
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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May 27, 2019 - 05:58pm PT
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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May 28, 2019 - 05:47pm PT
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This has been a fun thread. Thanks everyone for the photos and psych. See you out there.
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