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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Sep 20, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
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If it wasn't dangerous, the shaman wouldn't take it.
To survive the entheogen repeatedly is to conquer death.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Sep 20, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
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Don't do it.
I know someone who thought he was going blind, couldn't read for a week or two.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2013 - 04:45pm PT
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^^^^
How about Dibs Sorensen? His 3 day bender seemed to work out ok after all the wax bats stopped attacking him.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Sep 20, 2013 - 04:46pm PT
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a state of "significant psychomotor agitation"
Maybe he was just "twerking", you know like Miley whatshernutz.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Sep 20, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
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Been there, done that, and that sh#t is bad news and can seriously mess you up. Do some buttons or shrooms instead.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Sep 20, 2013 - 05:05pm PT
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Blah blah blah, nobody's gonna do it except us warriors out here on the perimeter.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Sep 20, 2013 - 05:07pm PT
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Datura is badd juju; seriously bad juju and it's not even a fun high, just suffering. Forget about.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2013 - 05:10pm PT
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I've been getting some good tips from ST members through email:
So far, shooting it seems to be better than smoking it. Smoking is bad for your health anyway.
The dehydration aspect was somewhat cured by one under the influence member who super-glued his "jap eye" closed. I'm guessing that is referring to his urethra, or in common parlance, the hole in the end of his dick. Upon sobering up, he said the method was flawed and should not be used. Just drink more water.
Eyesight seems to be the weak link. One theory was the hallucinations were tiring, and that is why he could not really see for about 7 days after ingestion.
Taking a bunch of Milk Thistle about an hour before ingesting the goods seems to make for a cleaner burn since it wakes up your liver before the shitstorm hits.
Keep 'em coming! This is good stuff to know.
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MisterE
climber
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Sep 20, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
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Amanita Muscaria is a much funner high if you want to do just under a lethal dose.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Sep 20, 2013 - 05:19pm PT
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Man I love the shrooms, but Amanita's a little sketchy.
TO be safe, you gotta use the old shaman method. Feed them to the caribou, then drink the piss. Let their liver take the beating and filter the nasties.
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rmuir
Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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Sep 20, 2013 - 05:20pm PT
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...a complete inability to differentiate reality from fantasy; hyperthermia; tachycardia; bizarre, and possibly violent behavior; and severe mydriasis with resultant painful photophobia that can last several days. Pronounced amnesia is another commonly reported effect.
Hoo man. This sounds remarkably similar to a few ST threads we've been flogging lately.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Sep 20, 2013 - 05:45pm PT
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Sorry, no tips on Datura, but a 70's climbing buddy, that was living the hippie teepee lifestyle, experimented with Amanita Muscaria.
He had done some reading that linked Amanita Muscaria ingestion to why the Viking "Beserkers" acted so-----beserk. He also found notes that it was safest to ingest it in urine after another human had digested it and removed the more toxic chemicals with their kidneys.
Since he couldn't find anyone to pre-digest the schrooms for him, he ate some, then later drank his own urine.
He told me he was quite high, very noisy, and actively paranoid, for about 12 hours, but his girlfriend mostly kept him out of real trouble. Most of his trip consisted of him squatting, slapping his hands on his thighs, and violently jerking his head from one side to the other.
Somehow I lost interest in trying to repeat his trip.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Sep 20, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
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I like paper, personally.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Sep 20, 2013 - 06:02pm PT
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Blast some salvia d. through a bong. It doesn't get any trippier than that. Datura is reputedly very bad to trip on. More like being poisoned than tripping.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Sep 20, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
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All these DIY substances freak me out. I like my sh#t made in labs... ;)
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TwistedCrank
climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
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Sep 20, 2013 - 06:18pm PT
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Better living though chemistry.
Why do you think they call them "drugs"?
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Sep 20, 2013 - 06:22pm PT
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Because they were drug through a bunch of chemicals?
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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Sep 20, 2013 - 06:25pm PT
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Sounds like some good advice here. If you got extra maybe send some to the Syrian rebels. They got any rocks there to climb?
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euro-brief-guy
Boulder climber
Auburn, ca
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Sep 20, 2013 - 06:46pm PT
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Best thread in a while......
The milk eye thing had me in stitches.
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