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The Chief
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Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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When you've got the fringe righties here all heated up you know you're telling the truth.
Hmmmmm, (scratching my head).... Then by that logic Crankstar, I must be telling the "gospel truth" as I get ALL you Lefty crankaloons far above and beyond the boiling temp on a regular basis.
Thanks for reaffirming that Crankstar!!!
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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I remain in awe of Trump, and what he has been able to do, basically without spending any money.
He has truly sucked all the oxygen out of the GOP tent, which has largely killed Bush. He is too low-key to get a message out. Rubio can veer right, and scream with the best of them, so he is at least on the page. But the rest, NO ONE is talking about. I don't see this changing until Iowa has run it's course, and maybe not then.
Pretty amazing.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Ken, both Trump and H. Clinton are getting enormous amounts of free publicity from the press. For at least the last three decades the press has stopped covering the presidential race in any depth. It only reports poll results and outrageous statements, usually out of context, of those it is trying to oppose.
Meanwhile the dumbing-down of American entertainment, including, but not limited to news reporting, continues. It affects even such once-iconic bastions of intellectual propriety as "Jeopardy," which last night had a category on celebrity divorces and tonight had one on reality TV shows, among other vacuous content.
We have the press we deserve, which gives us the candidates we deserve.
John
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Best reality series on tv.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2015 - 05:32am PT
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Presidential candidates in general get free publicity, there's nothing inherently wrong with that. Arguably, it should be the only kind of presidential publicity. I completely agree with the rest of your assessment of campaign coverage, John. Conservative media also favors the political stylings of Trump, Carson and Fiorina which is why they are doing so well with the ways they are running.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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both Trump and H. Clinton are getting enormous amounts of free publicity from the press.
Awkward comparison, I think. Trump talks nonsense and Hillary talks policy.
We have the press we deserve, which gives us the candidates we deserve. Lumping "the press" into one big basket is lazy, in my opinion. There is plenty of smart analysis and accurate reporting going on.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2015 - 06:30am PT
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crank posted Wrong again. Lumping "the press" into one big basket is lazy. There is plenty of smart analysis and accurate reporting going on. Look deeper.
Take it easy, dude. I think his point is that the MSM is profit driven which means its looking for the most entertaining way to engage viewers (and up viewership). There is good stuff out there but in the last 15 years flagship media companies have shed much of their investigative reporters. John Stewart got a lot of content about the lack of tough questioning and the lack of follow up in political interviews. There is also a bias there because there are so many news outlets, politicians can have their pick. Trump told Fox to eat it and they literally crawled back to him begging for forgiveness. If a journalist is tough on a candidate, especially on live TV, then they simply won't go back on those programs and the journalist loses access and can no longer do their job effectively. There's a catch 22 there and the public is complicit in it.
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philo
climber
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The Bromance the Right wing conservatives have with Putin is disturbing.
Apparently a Black President who is at heart a Democrat with roots in community organizing is a greater threat to Amerikkka than A white man who is at heart a Communist with roots in the secret police.
I suggest our resident rightwingnutz wrap them selves much tighter in the Flag.
The Confederate flag that is.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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I'm relaxed, HDDJ. I'm also perfectly comfortable with my ability to sift through various news sources to get to the heart of an issue. What is the "mainstream media", anyway? Fox like to takes shots at them when they are the most-watched cable news channel. How much more mainstream can you get? Is the PBS News Hour mainstream? I don't think so.
The point about the media being profit driven is taken. That's why Trump is where he is. He's entertaining. In a bad way.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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We can gripe about Fox and MSNBC all day long, but the networks still dominate. From what I see, they're all about sensationalism.
Watch ABC World News, Inside Edition and Entertain Tonight in succession. All three will have the same stories. Those stories take up majority of each program.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2015 - 06:50am PT
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I was only trying to urge you to take it down a notch in starting off your response with calling him wrong. It sounds like you probably agree with him to some extent. Exploring those areas of agreement/disagreement are a lot more interesting and real than just insisting that each other is wrong. We're all wrong.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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I get your point and made an edit.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2015 - 07:00am PT
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Woot! One post at a time, we make the Taco a better place.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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JEleazarian wrote:
It affects even such once-iconic bastions of intellectual propriety as "Jeopardy," which last night...
Aha!!!! you do watch it!
I've always loved Jeopardy and the intellectual content of that show truly dwarfs today's poltical commentary.
So many of my leftwing friends get their points and views from shows like Comedy Central or Bill Maher.
It's all about the popular culture.
I personally like Bill Maher, but his religious rants can get downright reptilian. I'm not religious, but why ridicule and disrespect half of your audience?
The best moment ever on Bill Maher's show was several years ago when British intellectual Christopher Hitchens flipped off the infantile and predictable peanut gallery audience...twice.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2015 - 09:28am PT
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Maher sometimes has some worthwhile insights that he states in a blunt manner. I can tolerate him as counterweight to some of the insanity that goes on in right wing media (and sometimes goes mainstream). His views on religion are nothing short of abhorrent.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2015 - 09:47am PT
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dirtbag
climber
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Well, it looks like the latest version of Lois has been booted, lol.
She/dmt will be back.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Dingus,
LMAO
Doesn't James Carville's wife call him "Serpent Head"?
He's a hit man, but I've always enjoyed Carvilles's wit...he's funny.
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